aging

[RonnyT Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close RonnyT]

Aging.

I want to discuss a issue that some of us are familiar with and others will be at some point in their life.

Somewhere most of us started to work-out, for fitness, boxing, powerlifting or bodybuilding. Then you where infected with the virus and started to go to the gym more often, joined a discussion board, read magazines. You eat more, start to juice and grow a lot of muscles. While cycling you feel energetic, on top of the world, you have a huge libido a strong self esteem. The girls want you and the guys respect you. The muscles become part of your personality. After some time everyone that knows you, is familiar with the XXL look.

When you get older, you get a wife, kids a house maybe a dog. And we aren?t all professionals, thus most of us have a job and a social life. On a certain point we decide or have to decide to lessen our activities as our daily work-outs, the tanning, sleeping excessive eating.

You are getting smaller, carrying less and less muscles, are buying normal sized cloth and everyone starts to ask questions, why you become so small.

When you are in the gym you are doing bench presses with weights that you normally used to ?warm-up?. The new kids no longer ask you for advice

Your work-outs are not that rewarding as they used to be and your muscles, bones and joints start to hurt. You lack motivation and energy. You notice that you still have the appetite but can?t eat that much without growing fat. You?ve entered the vicious circle, that pulls you down. I?ve witnessed many times that some started to juice up again because they couldn?t handle this situation. It ruined relationships, because life with a juicing athlete isn?t pleasant at all for many females.

I think that these guys suffer from a form of body dysmorphia that gets a lot of attention lately and is know as muscle dysmorphia or popular biggorexia or the Adonis complex.



Comments please..

[clepire Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close clepire]

Wow man that's deep, I'm 22 now but aging and death is inevitable The only thing I can say as far as that goes, If you want to continue living the lifestyle you have in the passed sacrifice's must be made. Learn to accept what is happening and be smart about it, Try harder and harder in the gym, Do another cycle but make sure to take care of your body at the same time. I really don't know what to say!

But My lifting partner is 34 he's natural and is 5'6 pretty lean and weighs about 195 He's a beast, He is getting to the point where he thinks he may need to start using steroids to get gains or maybe do TRT which basically from my understanding is no different then injecting test....

What ever it takes to get to where he wants is his choice and I hope you all and him get all the gains you want!

[RonnyT Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close RonnyT]

adonis

Its not just the athletes that turn older, more and more teens and even kids start using steroids etc body dysmorphic behavior like eating disorders anorexia and bulimia are common. The media * videogames * comic-books * music industry (50 cents) * action hero dolls etc they are all muscle bound. In the last 25 years trippled their size. On the new site we'll post some articles about it.

From going to the gym to look good and feel good to obsessive muscle building and dieting for the neccesary 6-pack. Mind me, we are not talking about competitive bodybuilders here.

[player Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close player]

Writed for an our to reply this thread,but it's dropped me out...

In very short: this new guys not know,what youre are learning this whole sport in the past 2 decades.

[RonnyT Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close RonnyT]

In these last decades the number of bodybuilders multiplied, just like "supplements users" and AAS users. For every well educted and informed steroid user out there,there are a larger number of unaware and somtimes misguided steroid users. Some kids and teens buy from friends or club- and gymmates. They don't read up on cyles, post cycle therapies, and don't visit the internet (forums) or buy the magazines and books that would provide them the information needed. Beside that some users have a dismorphic vieuw to their bodies and use Synthol and even plastic surgery to gain the desired looks fast. Like I said we'll post articles on the new site. Now most information is just sensational.

http://www.bodybuildingimplants.com/

[SAFELIFE1 Banned Find all posts View Profile Close SAFELIFE1]

Hey, I'm there and thank God still kicking. As far as women other than I've seen too many of my boys go down because of them. The fighting has to stop. Im 38 and I will be settling down soon. Hopeful I will beable to help up and coming guys. My pet pea is always have a doctor. I won't talk to most people unless they are getting blood work and seen regularly by a doctor. But this all comes with age. Wisdom should I say. Two more years if I don't get pro card I'm out and bass fishing everyday me and my blonde pig tail girlfriend. I love pulling those pig tails, Oh sorry got carried away..

[RonnyT Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close RonnyT]

Thats the point, there is more in life then mass. Most of the guys participating here are fine, but a growing part is becomming obsessive, scientist assume its due to the competitive envirorment they grow up in.

I do like pig tails, looks sooo innocent ;-)

[SAFELIFE1 Banned Find all posts View Profile Close SAFELIFE1]

Ha Ha.. Thanks on the pig tails... Lol lol. Yea look so innocent is right, ha ha. I see you have been there done that. Ha ha. LMBO.

[limo Banned Find all posts View Profile Close limo]

Pig tails and sweet tails........love em all

[mbig245 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close mbig245]

Or in my case, I love me some short and sassy!!!

[limo Banned Find all posts View Profile Close limo]

This is coming from a guy over 40...43 to be exact. DO you think our need to stay fit and sometimes our need to stay large, comes from an underlying fear that our youth is gone and we don't want to end up looking and actually being old and out of shape?? I guess thats what you said in the above thread but I mean I thought the gym days were behind me there for awhile after I took a 2 year break and only recently got serious again. I mean yes life gets in the way once you have kids. Regardless of how you look at it things change and they should but it doesn't mean it has to end. I loved the gym life and all that comes with it I don't think age should get in the way. Look at Arnold, I know hes a rare animal but even after he got into politics he still didn't throw the sport that made him who he is under the bus like so many people would. I just love the game period and I for one will probably carry on till the final rep......hell I can't let my 2 boys ever think Dads gettin soft come on lol

[SAFELIFE1 Banned Find all posts View Profile Close SAFELIFE1]

I feel, u I said when I was 35 I was done. It is a habit as well as staying fit and preventing diabetes, high blood pressure as well as keeping the heart strong. There are many reasons I'm going to stay fit and in the gym. If I don't get my pro card in two years, I'm going down to 225 pounds, cycle, run, swim and continue lifting and eating right. My body is who I am now... So all us old boys keep kicking.

[boxerphil Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close boxerphil]

I think a lot of the problem with ageing (I'm 60) is because people believe what they are meant to about what you can do in the gym when you get older. I started Thai boxing when I was 50. I am still doing it every now and then though my main focus is now bodybuilding. My advice for what its worth is: challenge the boundaries - but keep sensible and sane. The whole of civilisation is undergoing rapid change and it really is true that '50 is the new 40' because we all get to live longer now due to medical progress. In fact, just around the corner is a drug that will enable us all to live to 200 years old believe it nor not! So challenge those boundaries - but keep in with your doctor and be monitored properly as you go. As for gear - great! and being 60 helps me because my experiences tells me I should read everything I can about a drug and get advice from good buds before I take it rather than just do it because someone else has and peer pressure. In fact gear - if taken properly is a great way to keep libido and prevent muscle atrophy (test etc anyway) well into old age. Bones are a bit more problematic but there is stuff out there to counter that as well. Okay so my body isn't as great as the younger guys - but it can be pretty amazing nonetheless and I feel healthy and good about myself. I also up the cardio because I am older as well - I find above all else that that can bring back similar performance to my younger days in terms of endurance and stamina (both socially and sexually).

[RonnyT Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close RonnyT]

real life

This is a subject that I will give more attention and Will do some articles about esp. the dismorphia - adonis complex etc etc. Its an old subject with new names and as most guys wrote here we get older - stay younger, the times have changed we have much more money, spare time (gymtime) etc.
I'll post an article (from the net) about it:

On a February morning in Thousand Oaks, Calif., Kevin Hart, 53, carefully sets out the NovoLog injection pens for himself and Peggy, his wife of 28 years. "Like most old married couples," Peggy, 52, says, "we take care of each other. We wake up together. We make breakfast for each other. One of us lays out the towels when the other one is in the shower. And sometimes it's this." This is their daily injection of human growth hormone.
They are on roughly the same prescription program from their doctor, Mark Gordon, an Encino-based physician. Kevin, a former linebacker at Penn State who is 6' 3" and 225 pounds, pinches a layer of fat on his stomach and injects .33 of a milligram of somatropin, the most common form of HGH. Peggy, a petite 112 pounds, injects a slightly smaller dosage into her thigh.
They are on different schedules for their testosterone. Kevin sticks a needle, loaded with 60 milligrams, into his buttocks every Sunday, while Peggy uses her belly for her 30-milligram dosage of the male hormone, which she takes every other Friday. (By comparison, bodybuilders typically take as much as 400 milligrams of testosterone as often as twice a week.)
"Frankly, I don't care what anybody thinks about it," says Kevin, who retired in 2001 after reaping a financial windfall from SunAmerica, where he had worked for eight years. "I feel better, my life is better, and I might live longer."
There's no reliable estimate of how many Kevin and Peggy Harts are out there, but they represent an emerging demographic of performance-enhancing-drug users -- well-to-do (the Harts' monthly expenditure for HGH and "test," as they call it, is almost $2,000) suburbanites who take their medications because of measurable deficiencies in HGH and testosterone.
The possibility that doses of HGH will cause cancer is the red flag usually raised by critics of growth-hormone-replacement therapy. Gordon says that some of his patients have been using growth hormone for as long as 12 years without any ill effects.
Kevin believes he is taking a risk, "but only a small one and one I'm willing to take." He sees himself as a pioneer patient. "If when I die there are any causes associated with my having used this, my kids, my friends and a lot of other people will have learned a lesson," Kevin says. "And if it turns out that it made me feel better and extended my life, they'll know that too."

The pic: Kevin (with Peggy) says the risk of health problems caused by HGH is "one I'm willing to take."

[limo Banned Find all posts View Profile Close limo]

Ronny as always great post. I hope and pray I'm able to continue with my Test use thru out my older years because thats the current plan. If my Doctor won't prescribe it for me when its time and I need it then I'll find a doctor who will