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  • #16
    YOHIMBE HCL

    INTRODUCTION

    WHAT IS YOHIMBINE HCL?
    Yohimbine hcl is a synthetic copy of the active and effective alkaloid in yohimbe extract.

    WHAT GOOD IS YOHIMBINE HCL?
    Well, its main benefit is that it allows for the release of fatty acids from "stubborn" fat.

    WHAT IS "STUBBORN" FAT?
    Typically, so called strubborn fat is estrogenic in nature- though some people just have high #'s of A2 receptors- the A2 receptor is highly influenced by estrogen if you are a women or have estrogenic fat patterns you most likely have large #'s of A2 receptors.

    HOW DOES YOHIMBINE WORK?
    It binds to the A2 and blocks Norepinephrine(and other A2 agonist INCLUDING ESTROGEN) from binding to and agonizing it (which inhibits the release of fatty acids) thus it allows for fatty acids to be "burned" and thus stubborn fat to be lost.

    WHERE DOES YOHIMBINE WORK BEST?
    Best areas are typically THIGHS, TRICEPS, LOVE HANDLES, GLUTES AND CHEST. Though any area that has soft female fat is likely to have high concentrations of A2 receptors.

    Since yohimbine tends to make you HOLD water, their true test is also a week or two after you have stopped.
    METHODS OF ADMINISTRATION
    1. Take Yohimbine hcl powder topically if fat loss is your most important goal.
    2. Oral admin is more stimulatory- a small dose sublingually about 10-15min prior to workout can be very beneficial- much lower doses than topical

    3. Out partying or want to get really amped up yohimbine can be snorted- though don’t over do it- it will make you feel crappy
    4. Yohimbine will pass through your skin without a carrier, it DOES NOT need a carrier. Yohimbine HCL is readily absorbed through the skin.
    LETS GET BACK TO TOPICAL AS FAT LOSS IS THE GOAL OF MOST.

    A. Twice daily topical admin will give you the greatest benefits- though smaller more frequent dosing with varied sites may produce better results in some individuals

    B. Dosing will vary depending on tolerance, one scoop or 20mg(typically) per dosing is a good place to start though some can tolerate/enjoy much higher doses- you will know when you take too much as it will not feel good. (headache, tired, just unwell- nothing really bad just annoying)

    C. Best sites for application as mentioned above are triceps, "love handles", thighs, glutes, calves, chest- basically any area that has fat accumulation- these areas will vary from individual to individual- though the above listed are the most common.

    TIPS AND TRICKS- CARRIERS AND PENETRATION ENHANCERS

    1. apply after hot shower

    2. use a body scrub to get rid of dead skin- This should be done 2-3 times a week

    3. It may be of some benefit to swab the area with diluted alcohol prior to admin- though this is probably only really beneficial if not applying after a shower.

    4. use one or more carriers- depending on the site of application and sex- if you are older or a woman you will need less penetration as well

    CARRIERS

    a. Organic carriers- aloe vera, while aloe vera gel is effective, the use of pure liquid aloe vera is better and thus recommended. This carrier also hydrates the skin

    b. Menthol either diluted(see oils liste below) or in a cream base like aspercreme(1%menthol) or bengay(16%menthol) (which may itself have some localized effects- aspirin has been shown to inhibit oxidative phosphoralation) salycilic acid (aspirin is also a penetration enhancer). This category includes peppermint(50% l-menthol), wintergreen(50-70%) and spearmint oils(50-70%)- all of which are excellent carriers and penetration enhancers- if using oils be sure to dilute about 8 parts water or aloe vera to 1 part oil.

    c. Capsicum- contained in several cream products( the more capiscum the better)- will increase absorption, may have some localized effect on fat burning. This may be to harsh for some- perhaps best diluted and added to other carriers.

    e. Pluronic gel- aka phlogel- should only be used in areas with poor blood flow- as it will dramatically increase uptake. This is difficult to obtain and probably not worth the effort as similar results can be obtained cheaper and more easily.
    The best thing to do is to try these different carriers to find the ones that are right for you- the easiest to get are MENTHOL(aspercreme, bengay, peppermint oil-diluted) and ALOE and perhaps swab the area with alcohol just prior- for most people this is sufficient to get good results. if you have large pockets of fat with little blood flow- ie these areas are always cold- then using stronger penetration enhancers is advisable. Women, because they have thinner skin, will probably need to use less penetration enhancers.
    **********possible carriers but not reccomended
    f. alcohol- that right plain alcohol- which is what most of the topical prohormones use (it is gelled alcohol)- though this is better as a carrier for prohormones- it is not recommended for use with yohimbine hcl except to clean the site prior to admin.

    WHO WILL BENEFIT MOST FROM YOHIMBINE USE?

    1. women

    2. men with female fat storage patterns

    3. men who have bulked heavily while on aromatics test/dbol- which because of the increase in estrogen will increase the number and sensitivity of A2 receptors.

    4. men who are very lean and trying to drop those last few "stubborn pounds- typically in thighs, lower back, and love handles.

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    • #17
      Basicly, If you have unwanted fat and you want to get rid of ..then do it!! Not halfharted, but inject Helios use oral clen, follow a diet, do earobic exercises, massage the fat spots, while taking a hotwater shower. Like I said Helios was original developped for the last bits of fat. To make your sixpack sharp by example. We discussed some of it here too
      http://juicedmuscle.com/showthread.p...ion-on-Stomach

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      • #18
        Originally posted by RonnyT View Post
        Basicly, If you have unwanted fat and you want to get rid of ..then do it!! Not halfharted, but inject Helios use oral clen, follow a diet, do earobic exercises, massage the fat spots, while taking a hotwater shower. Like I said Helios was original developped for the last bits of fat. To make your sixpack sharp by example. We discussed some of it here too
        http://juicedmuscle.com/showthread.p...ion-on-Stomach
        so hellios is not really going to take some one at 14%bf down to 10 or 8.... it is mainly a finishing tool for guy/girls already with low bf and looking to sharpen up


        thanks ronnie i think i have a much better idea of hellios and clen
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        • #19
          Waste of time,

          I wrote a thread a while back and used for about 4 weeks, Didnt know anything
          There are no stupid questions just stupid answers, Please dont be asked to be spoon fed though

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          • #20
            It does work.

            I know it will not work, if you are trying to get rid of man tits.

            but it works well on love handles(above the belt area)

            I know a Guy on another forum who had dramatic results in just 2 weeks!, he did have a good diet plan, and he did run his @ss off!, but he did that before, and it stayed the same.

            I will definitely be getting some for my back and waist. Not that my back is super fat, but I have a little that will shake, if I flex, and jump up and down. Underneath my shoulder blades. Very Odd.
            TimZilla
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            Last edited by TimZilla; 10-09-2012, 09:41 AM.

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            • #21
              My question is......

              Do we inject this into the fat?

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              • #22
                Nope we inject it subQ see pic

                I wrote a blogpost on hardcore clenbuterol usage. Personally I prefer the injectable. Most pro-bb-ers use it constantly. Its their little secret, just as No meds like Viagra/Cialis/Vardenafil
                http://juicedmuscle.com/jmblog/conte...advanced-usage
                Originally posted by TimZilla View Post
                My question is......

                Do we inject this into the fat?
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                • #23
                  I know numerous people, from different levels who all say its nowhere near what they were expecting................. just my 2 cents didnt work for me and hasnt worked for about 7-8 people I know. Im yet to speak to anyone who has had good results
                  There are no stupid questions just stupid answers, Please dont be asked to be spoon fed though

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                  • #24
                    cruz what is your body fat?
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                    • #25
                      12% as of 6pm today hahaha just had it measured, I used it at 13-14 just to ease down to 10 but nothing,
                      There are no stupid questions just stupid answers, Please dont be asked to be spoon fed though

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