help with cycle... feel like im at a flat spot in cutting

[BADSEED1976 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close BADSEED1976]

im in the 8th week of my cycle
50mg androl first 6weeks (finished thos - got really stronge no real size from this or this cycle cuase i am trying to cut)
600mgs of test E - (pinning every 5 days just cus it is easier to hid from the wife - thinking about going to every 3days for rest of cycle - going 12 more weeks on test)
500mgs of EQ (same on the pinning - and im going to run 8more weeks of the Eq)

now for the big question - i have gained "some" quality muscle (im ok with that) but i have also lost 12lbs but i am still at 18% bodyfat - i want to be around 12%
no other than diet and more cardio what else can i do....... oral tren, T2, T3, winny, clenbuteral?????? im up for anything

no im not ignoring diet and cardio i just now i eat the best i can (i cheat but what ya gonna do) and cardio i do 25-30 mins 4 days a week, and 60 mins a day 2days aweek......

please help i want to see my abs or some of then in 8weeks or less LOL
PLUS WHAT IS A GOOD PCT PLAN - HCG (how much) and clomid (how much how long and is that good enough????)

[Ares Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Ares]

toss in some hiit? maybe try doing workouts throughout the day. im starting my cycle in 2 weeks and im building up my cardio endurance right now. i was thinking of cardio in the early morn then a hiit workout mid day and at night lift. keep your body going all day long. id say cheat once a week but dont go bat shit crazy. also i got some results from making my workouts extremely fast. no rest and i always do some abs for extra burn and sweat. idk bro i struggle myself.

[BADSEED1976 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close BADSEED1976]

unfornuitly my job/wife/and commute will not allow me do work out on that schedule... i have to get my workout and cardio in from 6am to 8am... then i work in NYC and have an 1-1/2 hour train ride home... and i have 2 kids at home waiting for me to put them to bed... sorry for whinning about my shitty life lol.... but thats what im up against

[ds222 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close ds222]

T3, clen and increased cardio will help but your diet is always going to be the key. for me personally my waist tightens up as soon as i keep a majority of my daily carbs to pre and post workout meals. its probably going to take you a few diets to find out what works best for you, esp with your schedule.

[BADSEED1976 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close BADSEED1976]

yeah my schedule sucks..... what do you guys know about oral tren? how bad is it... i heard it is serious