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[jakexx Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close jakexx]

Hey,
do you think this cycle seems to be write for cutting and gaining muscle
1-10 trenbolone 250 a week
1-10 testestrone 500mg a week so 250mg the ssame day as i take trenbolone then another 3 days after
11-12 nolva
Have done steroids before that was 2 years ago (2cycle)
diet 2200 cals

[xamo Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close xamo]

You won't gain anything on 2200 calories. You might be able to cut depending on your cardio though

[Krazy Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Krazy]

It depends on how big he is. If he is 5'4, 145 lbs, then 2200 calories will work just fine. If you are like me, 6'0 223 lbs, then you will need about 3200 just to maintain your strength. Calories are not the enemy. Keep your diet clean and make sure you are getting enough or you will not lose as much fat as fast.

[BADSEED1976 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close BADSEED1976]

so even with gear CARDIO is still the deciding factor in cutting? i do cardio 3 days a week 30mins sometimes more but never less...... my diet is good better than most i cheat on the weekends (stay with small portions) but im very good mon-friday and i still cant loose the lower belly fat - never could was hopping Winne would be the wonder drug?

is there something to cut with that makes cardio and diet LESS important???

[BADSEED1976 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close BADSEED1976]

oh also forgot to mention i do a total core fitness class every saturday (60mins)

[Krazy Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Krazy]

Yep, Cardio is your issue. I do at least 30 mins per day 7 days per week. Usually, I add in at least 3 more sessions of at least 1/2 hour per week. So, 10 different cardio sessions per week and I still have work to do. Cheating is a necessary evil and you need to embrace it. The idea around a cheat day is to push your calories to the point where your body does not restrict the amount of fat you can lose. If you stay on a consistent low calorie diet, then eventually your body will adjust and you will have less energy with which to work, and a more difficult time burning fat.

[BADSEED1976 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close BADSEED1976]

yeah so more cardio huh...... WOW that sucks even with winnie and clen and all the gear its still comes down to cardio - any tips on cardio becuase i struggle with the running, and i kinda gave up on working out abs for a while cus i have a small layer of fat over them i fell the abs getting harder if i tighten up... but looks like my stomach is just getting bigger - prolly from the pump of abs pushing on the fat...... so i put the Ab work out a side for a little some may think that is dumb but thats why im here to hear from more experience people

[xamo Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close xamo]

It depends on how big he is. If he is 5'4, 145 lbs, then 2200 calories will work just fine. If you are like me, 6'0 223 lbs, then you will need about 3200 just to maintain your strength. Calories are not the enemy. Keep your diet clean and make sure you are getting enough or you will not lose as much fat as fast.

How big he is has quasi no factor in this dude. Tren will make it almost impossible for him on sch low calories to gain any mass. Plus it all depends on his genetic and metabolism. I stick to my first comment, 2200 calories is insanly low.

Cardio isn't the deciding factor, the food you're taking is. Everything else is optional

[Krazy Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Krazy]

It sounds like you and I struggle with the same issues. Xamo, it does matter bro, but it sounds like he is built more like me. Also, we are essentially agreeing regardless. Run.... Run... Run some more... I use the Arc Trainer by Cybex at the gym. I have found that I can keep my heart rate at about 160 BPM for 30 mins without any real strain. Then, I supplement the gym cardio with on pavement running. Believe me when I say, "I fucking hate cardio," but it must be done.

[Krazy Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Krazy]

Im coming off a skull fracture back in 2006. After the injury, I ballooned up to 272 lbs at approx. 25% body fat.

[Krazy Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Krazy]

Xamo, if your diet is good, then it allows you to free the Triglyceride from the lipid. Without cardio, it is much more unlikely that you will burn the triglyceride before it returns to the interior of another lipid. Cardio allows the citric acid cycle to really break loose...

[BADSEED1976 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close BADSEED1976]

soooooooo EVEN with all the gear in the world??????? i still have to run? i HATE running unless its from the cops! lol

[MrBig Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close MrBig]

soooooooo EVEN with all the gear in the world??????? i still have to run? i HATE running unless its from the cops! lol

Use an elliptical, there way easer than anything else and less impact on the legs, thats what I use.

[BADSEED1976 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close BADSEED1976]

hahaha funny you mention that..... i was thinking that today while i was cursing the tred mill for 30 mins

and by easier you mean i will be able to to it longer right? maybe 45-60 mins instead of 30?

[Joelieo Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Joelieo]

U won't hardly gain any muscle eating that little, especaly taking tren. Maybe 5-10 pounds. U should just call this cycle your cutting cycle then run a bulking cycle your next run. Focus now on losing that gut so during ur bulking cycle you won't appear as if your getting fatter when ur just putting solid muscle on.