need advice

[xtonyp Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close xtonyp]

This will be my first time using gear and need guidance...cycle of about 1-12 Test E 200mg EW..Adex .5mg EOD…7-12Winstrol 50mg ED splitting the winni in half 25 mg in the morning and 25 mg about 8 hours later

[MrBig Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close MrBig]

Don't do the Winstrol 7-12 weeks, your liver will shrivel up like a fuckin raisin and die. No more than 6 weeks brother! You can also add some liver support to the cycle, if you want.

[Alchemist Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Alchemist]

Don't do the Winstrol 7-12 weeks, your liver will shrivel up like a fuckin raisin and die. No more than 6 weeks brother! You can also add some liver support to the cycle, if you want.

I'm sorry, but I disagree with you, a stanozolol cycle can run for a longer period without causing much damage to the liver, of course, if a proper diet is associated. I have a friend who hardly uses stanozolol for less than 12 weeks and ever at doses higher than 500mg/week. Anyway, 7-12 are still just 6 weeks.

[xtonyp Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close xtonyp]

Thanks guys for the info. Would liv 52 be a good add on for the liver support? And if so how would I add it into the cycle. Would I need a pct for this cycle

[MrBig Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close MrBig]

I'm sorry, but I disagree with you, a stanozolol cycle can run for a longer period without causing much damage to the liver, of course, if a proper diet is associated. I have a friend who hardly uses stanozolol for less than 12 weeks and ever at doses higher than 500mg/week. Anyway, 7-12 are still just 6 weeks.

Fuckin go for it brother I'm not your fuckin father. We're all men here! Have you or your "friend" ever had your liver levels check while on a cycle for that long? I have, at the end of a 6 week cycle and there not good!

my advise to anyone reading this thread, DO NOT DO A CYCLE OF WINSTROL FOR MORE THAN 6 WEEKS!!!




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Thanks guys for the info. Would liv 52 be a good add on for the liver support? And if so how would I add it into the cycle. Would I need a pct for this cycle

Yes, liv52 is ok, I us milk thistle, I like this better, but it's your choice. Take it as directed on the bottle. Yes you'll need a PCT.

[Alchemist Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Alchemist]

This is the respect that you show when someone disagrees with you?

Well, I'm not saying that stano does not harm the liver function, but saying it's not as bad as you think. From medical point of view, liver levels 2 or 3 times above the reference values are not so bad, personally I do not recommend using stano for long periods of time, but if it occurs, is not something that will kill you.

[MrBig Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close MrBig]

Most of the guys and girls here are not pro's. Maybe for them they'll use it longer, but here mostly everyone is just starting out and we try not to lead them in that sort of direction. Here want to be safe and let them take it as far as they want. We try not to promote heavy use, but (kiss)
), with less gear usage.

Sorry for jumpin down your throat, I was out of line. I want people to have a good experience if they choose to use gear for the first time.

[Alchemist Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Alchemist]

Most of the guys and girls here are not pro's. Maybe for them they'll use it longer, but here mostly everyone is just starting out and we try not to lead them in that sort of direction. Here want to be safe and let them take it as far as they want. We try not to promote heavy use, but (kiss)
), with less gear usage.

Sorry for jumpin down your throat, I was out of line. I want people to have a good experience if they choose to use gear for the first time.

I understand your position, I also agree with your view to encourage use less (and not for too long).

I'm just a newcomer here, but I hope to contribute to the health of users. I like to discuss in forums, there is always to much too teach and to learn.