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  • Fear of getting fat/Fear of losing muscle

    There are two problems I come across from guys that have a hard time reaching their goals. 1, Small guys in reasonable shape that are afraid of getting fat, so they never eat enough to really make gains and 2, Over weight guys that are stop dieting too soon because they are afraid they are losing muscle.

    1, If you are an ecto and have a hard time making gains, there is a simple answer, you are not eating enough. I talk to guys that say "I eat a ton". Define a ton, please. Usually, it is still 2000 cals under what they need. I'm not saying that someone should "bulk up" and loose all shape, but you have to understand, if you want to grow, you need to eat more than maintenance. This may mean putting on a little fat and it will certainly mean going through a period of holding some water, especially if you are running gear like deca or dbol. If you are naturally skinny, you'll be able to lose this added chub in no time. So do yourself a favor and give yourself a solid 12 wk cycle and dont be afraid. Use pics and the scale to judge progress and try to push to a new level of development. Then after you have recovered, begin to lower the cals SLOWLY and begin to carve back up. You';ll be shocked at how fast the water and fat comes off.

    2. For over weight guys, It is really harder to lose muscle than you think. If you are eating a high protein diet and taking gear, you're not going to easily lose muscle. If you are 12% or 15% body fat, you are not going to lose muscle while eating high protein, especially on gear. You may start to go flat and feel small but this is all part of the process of dieting. If you are under 6%, which means you can probably see lines in your hamstrings. There are areas of your body where you can't pinch the skin. You have veins running through your abs. You have no love handles, and the only way to get rid of more fat is to add cardio to an already long cardio session while limiting fats/protein, then you might need to worry about muscle loss. But if you are really a true low single digit body fat, and you want to push that much harder, any muscle you lose will come back when you add more food in later. It will come right back to life within a short time. But really, if you see yourself shrinking the first month of a GOOD diet, you aren't losing muscle, you are losing water and fat. It wasn't really muscle to begin with. I would suggest to make sure the diet is good to protect your body and embrace the process.

    And thats the key. Embrace the goal you have and give your all to it. If you have tried to get into shape, or tried to get big and it hasn't worked, try something new and don't quit when you are afraid. Educate yourself and know what you're doing, or hire someone like me or any other good coach (I'm not writing this as self promotion). Someone else that know what they are doing and has seen how to get results can make the calls for you, if you aren't sure. If you don't hire someone, thats cool too. Have someone in your corner that you trust, as a second set of eyes. Someone that understands your body type and is willing to look at you and give you a little direction. Whatever you do, trust the process. Let go of the ego, whether it be that your ego is wrapped up in always having abs, or your ego is wrapped up in being the biggest guy in the gym. The guy that is cut 365 is rarely going to make great progress unless he has great genetics and the guy that always has to be the biggest and strongest is rarely the leanest.

    Bodybuilding is about being better than we were before. Challenge yourself and shoot for real improvements. Shoot for being BETTER than last year
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    Last edited by Next Level Nutrition; 06-11-2015, 02:59 AM.
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    Great post brother, if anyone knows this now, it's me, Because of your help last summer I wouldn't have been able to get as lean as I did. Through the winter I've been able to but on some size but yet stay leaner then I have in the past. Thanks for all your help, I really appreciate it!
    If any of you guys or gals, are looking to bring your body to the next level, Next Level Nutrition can get you there, he helped me get leaner than I've ever been!

    The pic on the left is where I started, I was 210lbs. at 16 or 19% body fat, pic on the right is where I ended up at, which was around 5% body fat. At the age of 51 years old!
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    • #3
      Thanks Mr Big. You were a trooper. I appreciate your dedication to the process! And you did exactly what I'm taking about. You were wiling to do whatever it took and we made it work!
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      • #4
        Awesome progress Mr. Big, and NLN wish I could afford you brother!!! Maybe someday!!!
        GO HARD OR GO HOME!!!


        BELIEVE IN YOURSELF AND ALL THINGS ARE POSSIBLE

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        • #5
          Originally posted by gymdad View Post
          Awesome progress Mr. Big, and NLN wish I could afford you brother!!! Maybe someday!!!
          Hey gymdad, we've talked about various topics and you know you can always message me if you want advice.
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          • #6
            I used to be in category 2! Got lean and look and feel way better.

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            • #7
              So NLN, overweight is 12-15%? Lol.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by John B. View Post
                So NLN, overweight is 12-15%? Lol.
                Maybe I should have written , if you are 12-15%, or more, you're not going to lose muscle.

                But for bodybuilding, 12% is about as high as I would take my body fat. 15%? Yea I guess I would say that for bodybuilding, that's too high. A guy that weighs 225 at 15% is holding 30 lbs or more of non-lean tissue. For most guys, it's going to take a lot of work to get this fat off.
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                • #9
                  Yes people have gotten lazy I think if u consider yor self a body builder or a person in shape u should never lose sight of your abs that's amature hour. Always be on point, if bulking keep fat off any way work harder,i ts considerably healthierand cann lessen the chance for side effects definitely less estrogen problems if u stay lean.

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                  • #10
                    .. 218 today and i think i have little belly but not much fat anywhere else.. not strong at all but 6'3.. i have 30 pounds of fat/non-lean tissue? I tried to eat a 4000-4400 calorie diet but after meal 3 i feel so full i cant eat anymore. Wondering how to increase my hunger. Following steroid.com diet plan of 6 meals with rice/quinoa veggies and meat/fish with a few meals of oatmeal / eggs and meal of only eggwhites before bed. Some days i can eat all the meals and some days i just feel so full i cant. I KNOW i need to do cardio but have had lack of motivation lately with many things to deal with and hot weather no excuses except long work hours and short breaks.

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                    • #11
                      Pestosterone, Great point about the estrogen. More fat equals higher estrogen equals more fat.

                      Originally posted by aweusx View Post
                      .. 218 today and i think i have little belly but not much fat anywhere else.. not strong at all but 6'3.. i have 30 pounds of fat/non-lean tissue? I tried to eat a 4000-4400 calorie diet but after meal 3 i feel so full i cant eat anymore. Wondering how to increase my hunger. Following steroid.com diet plan of 6 meals with rice/quinoa veggies and meat/fish with a few meals of oatmeal / eggs and meal of only eggwhites before bed. Some days i can eat all the meals and some days i just feel so full i cant. I KNOW i need to do cardio but have had lack of motivation lately with many things to deal with and hot weather no excuses except long work hours and short breaks.
                      Hey Aweusx, You're best bet would be to start a new thread. That way it will get more views and more responses. As for your question, you did give yourself a great suggestion. Cardio. So you do know one solution, but you aren't using it? I'm not going to get all high and mighty here, because I really get where you're coming from. But what I do think is that you need to change your perspective a little. We only have this one life to get to our goals, no matter what they are. So if looking awesome is one of them, why not commit to it all the way and understand that anyone can get their body to look great. It sounds cheesy, but if you believe in yourself and want it bad enough, you'll become WILLING to do the things it takes. Lots of guys have DESIRE, but few have WILLINGNESS. This option can work and it doesn't have to be a hunge commitment. 20 min post workout, 4x wk, walking on a treadmill and getting your heart to 125. Then add a little more as you go and see what a good balance is.

                      Also, not sure what your food choices are but that can make a difference. Less fats and cleaner carbs can work well. In the off season, I love to eat white jasmine rice, but when I eat brown rice, man, do I get hungry. 2-30 min after eating brown rice, I'm hungry again. White doesn't do that too me.

                      Another option, limit fats with meals that you find you aren't able to eat as much. Fats are what really make you feel full.

                      There are more options, but here are 3 to try. I'd start here, and use these 3 ideas together and figure out how to make coax your body to work with you
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