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    Quote Originally Posted by ds222 View Post
    i dont taper up or off and my blood work has shown my thyroid back to normal quickly..it also allows me to run it for shorter periods with the same gains(fat loss)
    I really appreciate the feed back bro!
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    Join Date: Jul 2012
    Location: LA
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    Quote Originally Posted by M FREAKY View Post
    This where the argument comes in PLAY taking T3 on empty Stomach, that’s were your muscle becomes FLAT IMOP. I have taking plenty T3 speaking from my own experience and few ProBB I have trained with we have always followed the same protocol T3 is consumed in the Mid day at high quality Protein intake as well with your quality meal NOT speaking of sloppy food.
    T3 should be taking with quality meal or High Protein shake.
    Ok freaky. I did a little more research last night and yes t3 dies need to be taken with a QUALITY meal, but only for higher doses. Lower dosages, anything under 50mcg, does not require food the be taken with it.

    Sam, the only thing i even saw about thyroid disease is that t3 is not typically used to treat it, t4 is more common for thyroid disease and is meant to be taken over a longer period of time due to its low mcg level.
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    Join Date: Mar 2013
    Location: NorCal
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    Ok, of all thinks i've researched T3 seems to have the least information available. So maybe someone here with experience can help out. How long is ideal to run t3? If i'm running it with clen, would i start t3 with clen and run it until i'm ready to come off both the clen and t3 (i.e. stopping after my second clen cycle)? Also, do i run it during my 2 wks off clen inbetween cycles? Thanks.


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    Join Date: Jul 2012
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    Are u running them with an aas cycle?
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    I ran T3 without an AAS for a month with very good results, I would have run it longer but my blood pressure was getting wrecked. Basically I was originally planning on tapering up but I decided to start at 50mcg for the first week. I popped all the pills first thing in the morning with a glass of water on an empty stomach and ate one hour later, I also did this when I bumped it up to 75mcg. The first week was nothing crazy just a little warmer. The following 3 weeks at 75mcg I swear I was changing daily without any muscle loss and if there was any I did not see it or feel it as my weights all went up or remained the same. My blood pressure was in the 180/95 range so be warned if you have high BP. My final results were a loss of 13 lbs with no rebound roughly at 2 weeks now. My only other experience with a similar type substance is clen which I hate due to sides. Hope this helps others.


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    I forgot to mention I had a pretty good diet going on, mainly high protein to preserve the muscles mass and I did absolutely NO cardio. Maybe I wouldve lost more if I did but I was gased out and sweating waterfalls after lifting.


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    Join Date: Mar 2013
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    Quote Originally Posted by Adonis34 View Post
    I forgot to mention I had a pretty good diet going on, mainly high protein to preserve the muscles mass and I did absolutely NO cardio. Maybe I wouldve lost more if I did but I was gased out and sweating waterfalls after lifting.
    Good info. Thx. I'm just now researching T3, what it is, and what it does, but there just doesn't seem to be a whole lot of information available so i thought i'd ask someone who may have some experience. How long is it safe to run it for? From what you posted i came up with 4 weeks? Is it something you can run for a long period once and then stop when youre done or does it need to be cycled sorta like clen needs to be?


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    Join Date: Jul 2012
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    It depends on what your running with it. If youre using it with aas, you can use it for as long as your using aas. Im running it right now for 15 weeks as outlined in this thread:

    http://juicedmuscle.com/showthread.p...-My-Take-On-T3

    You really need to read the opening post of this thread and the one were in right here
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    Quote Originally Posted by D-Lumz View Post
    Good info. Thx. I'm just now researching T3, what it is, and what it does, but there just doesn't seem to be a whole lot of information available so i thought i'd ask someone who may have some experience. How long is it safe to run it for? From what you posted i came up with 4 weeks? Is it something you can run for a long period once and then stop when youre done or does it need to be cycled sorta like clen needs to be?
    General rule of thumb is no more than 6 weeks to prevent thyroid damage but there are numerous logs of people running it longer than that although in my opinion 6 weeks at 50-100mcg is enough if your diet is in check. There are also studies where a person has been given T3 for several months and just cut off from it and they recover perfectly, I wouldn't be able to grab them for you though. Users of Trenbolone also like to use T3 because tren lowers your T3 which leads to elevated prolactin levels. I take no credit for the following information:

    Natural T3 is a regulator of the oxidative metabolism of energy producing substrates (food or stored substrates like fat, muscle, and glycogen) by the mitochondria. The mitochondria, as you will recall from your high school biology class, are usually referred to as the "cells powerhouses" because they produce ATP. Taking Cytomel (supplemental T3) greatly increases the uptake of nutrients into the mitochondria and also their oxidation rate (i.e. the rate at which they are burned for energy), by increasing the activities of the enzymes involved in the oxidative metabolic pathway. Everything is working harder, in other words, and more fuel is needed to supplement this increased work rate. Therefore, as you can guess, taking supplemental Cytomel will increase your bodys energy demands. And if you are in a hypocaloric state, you will begin burning even fatter primarily due to an increase in ATP. This increased ATP causes an increase in overall metabolic activity. (8)(9)This is exactly what we want, and is why we would be taking thyroid hormones like Cytomel in the first place. If you arent taking anabolic steroids with your Cytomel, however, your body may start to eat away muscle to provide energy for you to function. Remember mitochondria/ATP arent very picky, but they are very efficient. What I mean by this is that they will use whatever is on hand to generate energy for your body to continue functioning, fat, protein, glucose; it doesnt matter to ATP, as long as theres something to give them energy. Taking this drug will increase their need to find something to burn to create this energy. Ergo, if we arent taking anabolic steroids while taking our T3, we may lose too much muscle, especially while dieting.

    Thus we can see that there are many advantages to using Cytomel to optimize our metabolic rate. It will also increase your bodys ability to synthesize protein, but from what Ive seen personally, it acts as a catabolic when it isnt administered with anabolic steroids. It is often the last thing added into a precontest diet, as it has a reputation for getting rid of the last few percentages of bodyfat& the "sticky fat" as its called in bodybuilding, the fat that just doesnt want to leave you in the last few weeks of dieting. I think this is a poor use for this drug, and that it should be the first thing added into a diet to lose fat, as it will optimize your metabolic rate, which should be done at the outset of a diet, not after the calorie restriction has diminished your thyroid output and you are adding it in simply to replace what was lost.


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