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    Mutants Insulin Protocol



    Ok, so after talking to some professional and elite bodybuilders, I have learned quite a bit about what a well known professional trainer is having these bodybuilders to do to obtain the retarded amounts of weight they have been added to their bodies. It's simply taking their insulin pre-workout, combined with 3 "shakes". I looked at this Insulin protocol, and the ingredients in the shakes, and designed my own Insulin Protacol to better suit my goals and routine. I use better quality of ingredients in my shakes, and added my HGH pre-workout, and igf-1lr3 post workout as well.

    Now, the theory behind this insulin protocol is, "Why break the body down, only to rebuild it? When you can simply keep adding onto the Body!"

    So basically, by forcing the carbohydrates and Essential Amino Acids into your muscles while you train, the muscle tissue is not breaking down in the same manner that they normally would. It is actually being both protected and forced to grow at the same time. I have not done too much research behind the theory, but it sure sounded good to me, based on what I know about enhancing drugs and supplementation. I prefer trying things out myself, and going by results. Well, the results were spectacular.

    Before I begin, I want to say that this typed out protocol is just a base. It is to give you a base to work from/with. Everybody is different. Some people will need more or less carbs and amino acids. This is based on the amount of insulin that they are using and how their bodies react. This is why I gave a range for the supplements and insulin doses. You will need to adjust it based on how you react. For the carbohydrates, always start high, and lower it accordingly, once you get the feel of it.

    We start off by taking our HGH, and give it a few minutes to get circulating, before we add our insulin. The idea behind this, is to make sure that the HGH passes the liver while we have a substantial amount of insulin in the body. This is how we produce large IGF-1 spikes. After the workout, we go home and take our IGF-1LR3. We are taking this to increase our insulin sensitivity, and to help use up any of those receptors that we have not filled. I could go more into detail, but if you are using this protocol, you should already know all about the drugs, and should be able to put it together yourself.

    - -30 min prior to workout: Take 10iu HGH subq

    - -15 min prior to workout: Take 6-16iu Novalog subq

    - -10 min prior to workout: Drink shake #1

    - -After every working set: Sip on shake #2, and finish by end of workout

    - -Go home

    - -Take 100mcg of the IGF-1lr3 (for it's insulin sensitizing effects)

    - -Take down shake #3

    - -Done..now you are huge


    Ok, now what is in the shakes...

    Shake 1: 10-20g EAA's or PeptoPro, 40-60g Low DE Maltodextrin, 5g Micronized Creatine Monohydrate, 200mg Caffeine (or pre-workout powdered mix of choice in place of caffeine)

    Shake 2: 10-20g EAA's or PeptoPro, 50-100g Dextrose, 5g Micronized Creatine Monohydrate

    Shake 3: 2 cups pasteurized egg whites, 1 cup dry oats, 1 banana or 1 cup blueberries (I prefer them to be frozen), splenda or stevia

    *There is no need for a supplemented post workout shake because your glycogen will not be depleted, and you will have been ingesting aminos the whole time too. So dense whole food calories with low fat content, are going to be the best option here. So we throw it in a blender and take it down.

    Now, I would like to advise you cheap-skates, not to go out and buy the cheapest ingredients that you can find. Please pick quality supplements. It does and will make a difference. Spend the extra 2$ and buy some quality shit, or your results may be skewed. Thinks about it this way: Your body is a Lamborghini. Would you fill your tank with low grade octane from Costco? No, of course not, it would run like shit. So use quality supplements, not bulk junk crap, and your results will be that much better!

    Supplement idea for those of you who need to be pointed in the right direction:

    EAA's: Champion Nutrition makes a good EAA product that has creatine in it, and also one that has caffeine too. It's called Amino Shooter. There are 3 versions. None are a proprietary blend, and they are made with pharmacy grade aminos.

    PeptoPro: This can be used in place of the EAA's. It is a high quality peptide/EAA product made from hydrolyzed casein. Different companies buy PeptoPro and flavor it. One brand I have tried that is flavored is MAP by Primordial Performance.

    Low DE Maltodextrin: This means Low Dextrose Equivalency. The lower the equivalence, the more complex of a chain it is, and the slower it will break down into a sugar. A couple good ones are Carb Complex by Nutek, and Cytocarb 2 by Cytosport. If corn maltodextrins give you stomach problems, then other water soluble carbohydrates like Karbolyn can work. They just tend to be expensive, and do the same exact thing. Some people that have used this protocol with success, have actually used dextrose in place of the maltodextrin due to stomach problems.

    Dextrose: Yes, you can find this anywhere, but I prefer AST's DGC because it also contains vitamins.

    Micronized Creatine Monohydrate: Well, the name says it all. Any brand that uses Creapure as the source of their creatine monohydrate, should be just fine. I use Bioplex.

    *Do not use cheap starch carbs, like waxy maize, in the shakes. The carbs need to be water soluble and easily digested. By keeping them soluble, they help pull the aminos in.

    I decided to throw this protocol together after I had my leg surgery, in hopes of gaining some abnormal amounts of muscle back that I had lost. I can tell you that I did, and this protocol works better than any protocol I have ever used. I started off at 204 - 205lb, and ended up at 234 after 4-5 weeks! I was taking anabolics on the side, but I guarantee that amount of insane weight, that fast, was not from the long estered steroids I was taking. I literally filled out instantly. When I dropped the insulin, I only lost a few pounds of water, and retained most, if not all, of my strength. So the gains were very solid, and not just a bunch of glycogen storage.


    So, there it is boys. Some people are paying big money for this type of info. It's nothing special. It's just different, but it makes sense and it works.

    *Added note: Since this protocol was designed and posted, a handful of advanced users have tried it as part of their bulking regime. They have also had great success.

    Thanks to Mutant from basskilleronline for this


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    Dosing IGF post-workout, you are blunting the body's natural MGF, which is needed and would make IGF that more potent. I would wait at least an hour PWO for IGF dosing.

    Me personally, I dose MGF pwo, and 12-24 hours later dose IGF.


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    i have been seeing good results, playing with something similar. i've also found that i like the igf pre workout. heres how it looks....i eat a solid carb/protein meal 1 hr before training, take humilin r 30 min before training. 5 minutes before training, i drink about 25g dextrose, 5g creatine, bcaa and arginine, take my igf. during training, i take in another 45-50g carbs from dextrose and waxie maze, 10g bcaa and 5g creatine. right after workout i'm taking 50g whey in water. no need for additoanl carbs because i am still covered by the intraworkout shake. then about 45 minutes later, i eat a solid food protein/carb meal.

    as far as gh, i only use 2-3 IU a day and haven't brought that into the mix. i take that first thing in the AM.

    i can honestly see a difference using this protocal. i feel it can probably be improved, but this is where it's at today, and it seems to be working.
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    Thanks guys for the input!


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    that has to be the most expensive cycle I've ever heard of ... I did 10iu of HGH for 6 months and it ran me around $2700... it would be about the same again to run IGF along side... ... how long are you running this? just the 4-5 weeks mentioned? I guess that would be affordable...

    does insulin have any real affects if one were to do it alone preworkout... something like what you guys have listed but minus the IGF and GH?... or is that just a waste?

    At what dose on the insulis one one risking getting an insulin gut? it the IGF that causes that?

    what do you guys prefer if you have to choose, IGF or straight up HGH?

    thanks in advance as always.


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    Quote Originally Posted by sam1976 View Post
    i have been seeing good results, playing with something similar. i've also found that i like the igf pre workout. heres how it looks....i eat a solid carb/protein meal 1 hr before training, take humilin r 30 min before training. 5 minutes before training, i drink about 25g dextrose, 5g creatine, bcaa and arginine, take my igf. during training, i take in another 45-50g carbs from dextrose and waxie maze, 10g bcaa and 5g creatine. right after workout i'm taking 50g whey in water. no need for additoanl carbs because i am still covered by the intraworkout shake. then about 45 minutes later, i eat a solid food protein/carb meal.

    as far as gh, i only use 2-3 IU a day and haven't brought that into the mix. i take that first thing in the AM.

    i can honestly see a difference using this protocal. i feel it can probably be improved, but this is where it's at today, and it seems to be working.
    Sam, at what dose and how often do you run the IGF-1 LR3? Thanks in advance


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    Join Date: Dec 2009
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    Nice thread. It is now a Sticky! Many thanks to Mutant for the valuable information.


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    Quote Originally Posted by ItalianMuscle View Post
    Nice thread. It is now a Sticky! Many thanks to Mutant for the valuable information.
    good thinking, IM.

    Quote Originally Posted by momentum View Post
    Sam, at what dose and how often do you run the IGF-1 LR3? Thanks in advance
    i've found that 50mcg works good for me. i've heard some do a lot more than that, but since 50mcg gives me crazy pumps and seems to be doing the job, it's plenty for me!
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    Thanks Sam, how many times per week, 4?


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    Join Date: Mar 2011
    Location: MASS
    Posts: 1,507



    anyone try this;

    you can achieve what would amount to a couple iu of Hum-R by using glucose & leucine. The two work synergistically to spike insulin.

    About 3.5 grams of Leucine + 25grams of glucose was sufficient to double the insulin response.
    "GYM + JUICE"


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