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  1. #11
    Join Date: Sep 2012
    Location: broward county fl
    Posts: 242



    point 4 yes you can use either one proviron is just the pill form of materon
    point5 start your hcg the last week of your cycle only take it for three wks 2000iu first shot 5 days later 1500iu then5 days later 1000iu then 5 days later 500iu
    When taking the hcg take the femara 1/2 a pill every 3rd day strong stuff since your taking that you wont need the nolva they do the same thing femara just does it alot better but you do need clomid to start taking after you stop your hcg take clomi wk1 150mgs ed wk2 100mgs ed wk 3-4 50mgs ed when done with clomid stop taking femara
    point6 clen you can take clen whenever just you can only take it for 3 wks at a time then you have to wait 3 wks to start again or you will burn out your receptors and it wont work does start with 20mcg in the mourn and 20 mcg at lunch and go up from there its up to you how much you can take try not to take it after lunch or you will have trouble sleeping at night
    I think if you can end your cycle now and recover then I can help you set up a cycle to reach your goals and so you get everything out of it you should and your moneys worth
    check out my site if you order anything order through it and when you want to set up that next cycle let me know we will put it toghther for ya
    thats my site you can email me through there and you should order through there.
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  2. #12
    Join Date: Nov 2015
    Location: Hawaii
    Posts: 4



    [QUOTE=F.I.S.T.;22233]1--- The protein supply, however, should still be relatively high at 1- 1.5 g of protein per pound of bodyweight per day.

    With all due respect, in a textbook named Nutrition for Health, Fitness & Sport ISBN:0078021324 that I used for a "nutrition for human performance" class I took in college it recommends that protein intake during weight training should be in the range of 1-1.5 Grams of protein per KILOGRAM of body weight, not pound. It specifically points out that the idea of 1.5g/POUND of body weight is a misconception brought upon by the fitness industry intended to sell more protein. The professor went on to justify this by pointing out that no scientist would use two different forms of measurement (imperial and metric) in one suggestion. If the suggestion was based on pounds of body weight the protein measurement should also be suggested in pounds and not grams. The suggestion in the textbook was around 0.25lbs/lb/day. Let me be clear, this is not my opinion and is simply what is written in my textbook. For me, weighing 70kg, exceeding 115g of protein per day would be excessive and the excess would be excreted because the body can only process so much protein in one day. Per your suggestion I should be intaking about 150-225g of protein/day. According to the textbook, this excess in caloric intake does not produce additional gains and will only make maintaining a lean state even more difficult as macros must be adjusted accordingly. I know I am a total newbie to this site, but let me reiterate that this is straight out of a textbook and was something that was very surprising to me too. I read your entire article and found it very helpful, except I wanted your opinion on the difference between what you wrote and what is written in my textbook. My opinion is that the point of the difference in systems of measurement (grams per pound) does not make sense from a scientific point of view. I changed my intake to follow the advice of the textbook and found it much easier to stay lean as I gain throughout at cycle. At the level of 1.2g/KG of body weight/day I was still able to gain a solid 20lbs on a 14 week cycle including test (500-700mg/wk) and deca (300mg/week) and ended the cycle at 13%bf. With all due respect, what is your opinion on what is written in my textbook?
    Semper Fi


  3. #13



    I eat up to 500 grams of protein a day and weigh just over 230lbs


  4. #14
    Join Date: Nov 2015
    Location: Hawaii
    Posts: 4



    Quote Originally Posted by Pestosterone View Post
    I eat up to 500 grams of protein a day and weigh just over 230lbs
    Have you ever tried lowering that intake to see if there is any negative effect?
    Semper Fi


  5. #15



    Helpful info!


  6. #16



    Very helpful reading with lots of information!


  7. #17
    Join Date: Jan 2018
    Location: USA
    Posts: 3
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    About Ready to Come Off a Cycle



    Thank you for the great info. Unfortunately, it's a bit confusing to me. I'm new at Cycling and like others, I wish I'd known of this site earlier. The nice thing is I will be much better prepared next time.

    I'm about ready to come off a cycle of Tren and Sust. I've been on for 12 weeks. What should someone take/do to keep as much of their gains as possible? Please keep it simple if possible.

    Expect Success!


  8. #18
    Join Date: Jan 2018
    Location: USA
    Posts: 3
    Blog Entries
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    Thank you for the great info. Unfortunately, it's a bit confusing to me. I'm new at Cycling and like others, I wish I'd known of this site earlier. The nice thing is I will be much better prepared next time.

    I'm about ready to come off a cycle of Tren and Sust. I've been on for 12 weeks. What should someone take/do to keep as much of their gains as possible? Please keep it simple if possible.

    Expect Success!


  9. #19



    Quote Originally Posted by NoExcuses View Post
    Thank you for the great info. Unfortunately, it's a bit confusing to me. I'm new at Cycling and like others, I wish I'd known of this site earlier. The nice thing is I will be much better prepared next time.

    I'm about ready to come off a cycle of Tren and Sust. I've been on for 12 weeks. What should someone take/do to keep as much of their gains as possible? Please keep it simple if possible.

    Expect Success!

    Sust 500mgs for 12 or 15 weeks

    Tren E 200mgs for 10 weeks

    Nolva 10mgs ED while on...

    PCT: Nolva and Clomid

    Thanks!!


  10. #20



    Great one!


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