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    What up boys? Been away a while getting my life/family/career going. Things are finally steeling down and just getting to a point where im able to focus on my physique a little more. Been able to loose a good bit of weight going from 280lbs and about 18% bf down to 240lbs and 12%. Looking to get back into the single digits with my bf but would like to stay around the 240lb range as im 6'3" and large framed so anything less than 240 lbs doesnt look good on me. Still working on my diet but it will be right before i get started. This will be cycle #5 or 6 but first one in 4 years, also first time using tren. My cycle will look like this:

    Wk 1-12: 270mg Sust EW
    Wk 3-12: 100mg Tren A EOD
    WK 1-18: 25mg Aromasin E3D
    Wk 3-12: .25mg Caber E3D
    PCT: Clomid 100mg first 3 days 75/50/50/25

    Please feel free to criticize/critique this cycle and let me know what you would change if anything. Thanks in advance
    ALEX.18
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    Last edited by ALEX.18; 05-16-2017, 06:56 PM.
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  • #2
    Hey ALEX.18, so good to see you back brother, I'm glad to hear things are coming around for ya.
    I do have a few issues with that cycle:
    1. Sustanon 270 has some fast acting esters, you really should inject that eod. Do 1/2cc eod for a total of 540mg's per week. Once a week is gonna kill ya. Your levels will have to many high peaks and low valleys. You wont have a steady level with ew.
    2. The 25mg Aromasin E3D, my not be enough.
    Trenbolone is not estrogenic. This anabolic steroid does not aromatize at all, which is the very reason excess water retention is impossible with this steroid. However, gynecomastia is still possible due to the hormone carrying a strong progestin nature. Progesterone has the ability to stimulate the estrogenic mechanism in the mammary tissue, which can promote gynecomastia. Many men will not have an issue, but an individual's sensitivity to gynecomastia will play a role. Anti-estrogens will provide protection for those who need it.
    An important note: for many years, it has been assumed that Tren based gynecomastia was due to a buildup in prolactin. However, this has been proven false largely thanks to the work of William Llewellyn. In fact, his study on the issue has largely been conclusive; it is the progestin nature, not prolactin, that causes . Llewellyn has also noted that the use of aromatizing steroids with Trenbolone greatly increases the odds of gynecomastia, often making the use of an anti-estrogen a necessity.
    3. You my need to take the Cabaser .5mg's twice a week. The way you are looking to take it you're only get .75mg's per week.
    4. Just a question, PCT, why are you doing clomid and not Nolvadex?
    Ok that's all I got lol good to see ya back brother!
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    Last edited by MrBig; 05-16-2017, 10:52 PM.
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    • #3
      Thanks Mr. Big. Glad to be back!

      1) I was under the impression from a few things i read recently that I should run test at a lower dose than the tren because they fight for the same receptors? Thats why i was going to take .5 ml 2x per week. I guess i could technically up the tren dose but i dont want to go too crazy with that shit being its the first time i take it
      2) So would you suggest to run aro @ 25mg EOD?
      3) Again, caber @ .25mg EOD?
      4) I know I've been out of the game for a while and I may have missed a few things that have changed recently but i thought i remember something about running caber for PCT after 19-nor cycles?
      ALEX.18
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      Last edited by ALEX.18; 05-17-2017, 03:10 AM.
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      • #4
        Thinking about maybe throwing in some hcg at 250iu 2x per week from week one all the way through pct
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        • #5
          I've heard of some guys running a lower Test, but I think with the Tren, it's 5X stronger than Test so keep that in mind also. IMO you may not have such a good libido with the lower Test. Go ahead and try it, you can always add more Test if you have an issue. I'm running Tren E now at only 200mg's a week and the night sweats pretty bad. That shit kicks my ass even at a low dose.
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          • #6
            Well my original plan was to just run a dose of A Mix every day but i want to be able to drop the tren if it gets to unbearable
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            • #7
              Yeah I hear that, like I said, 200mg's a week kicks my ass! Last night I sweat like a mother fucker. I have a towel on the bed and one on my pillow.
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              Last edited by MrBig; 05-19-2017, 12:27 AM.
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              • #8
                So im thinking about going back to my original plan and just running it as follows:

                Wk 1-10: 75mg Andromix EOD
                Wk 1-15: 25mg Aromasin EOD
                Wk 1-11: .5mg Caber EOD
                Wk 1-15: 250iu HCG 2x EW
                PCT: 100mg Clomid 1st 3 days 75/50/50/25
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                • #9
                  Ok, but I don't think you need that much Cabaser, .5mg's twice a week should be sufficient. That shit is f-in expensive!
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                  • #10
                    Looks like a a fine cycle. When are you planning to begin on it?
                    What labs are you using.

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                    • #11
                      Had a few more set backs over the past few months. Should be ready to go within the next few weeks. Bumping to the top to get a few more opinions: its going to look like this:

                      Wk 1-10: 50mg Test P eod
                      Wk 1-10: 50mg Tren A eod
                      Wk 1-11: .5mg Caber 2 x weekly
                      Wk 1-15: 250iu HCG 2 x weekly
                      PCT Wk 12-15: 100mg Clomid 1st 3 days then 75/50/50/25

                      Going to have Aromasin on hand just in case. Let me know what you guys think
                      ALEX.18
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                      Last edited by ALEX.18; 06-25-2018, 09:11 PM.
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                      • #12
                        First off yes sustanon and tren a need to be run at least MWF or better yet every other day to keep blood levels stable. Just having caber or prami on hand for the prolactin and progesterone issues is a good idea but you may not even need either of these. For your pct you ll want to have nolvadex,clomid and hcg. Cannot remember dosages offhand but these will keep you from being shut down.

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                        • #13
                          And who recommended you these substances and dosage? I am from https://worldpostalcode.com/united-states/new-york/. And I have only started to study this question. I have read many forums and found out that people suggest very different things and doses. How to understand what is wrong and what is not. I do not like to have any complications, so help me to take the right decision.
                          dooas
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                          Last edited by dooas; 04-05-2021, 03:18 PM.

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                          • #14
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                            Ive been considering a growth cycle and would like to start fairly soon. The one issue Im faced with right now is Im booked for a trip overseas in May for 6 days. If I started next week and had to take 6 days off for my trip in May how bad do you think that would be for end results? Id still be able to lift over that time, just not keep up with a daily dose.

                            Thanks.

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                            • #15
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                              Ive been considering a growth cycle and would like to start fairly soon. The one issue Im faced with right now is Im booked for a trip overseas in May for 6 days. If I started next week and had to take 6 days off for my trip in May how bad do you think that would be for end results? Id still be able to lift over that time, just not keep up with a daily dose.

                              Thanks.

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