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any one tried the fast burn Eca Stacks? they containe ephedrine caffeine asperine and grape extract, they should be pretty strong stuff.
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Grenade looks like typical "fat" burner bull shit that pops up all the time.
Id go with ECA having run the stack recently at 60-90mg eph a day 600mg caffiene and 450mg aspirin had great results in 2weeks on. i do like 2 weeks eca then 2 weeks clen and repeating 2-3x that proved to be the best non steroid cutter
but tren is king
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