it seems like they are still up to their same tricks.. I found them as a sponsor of another site.. They are soon to sell raws... Lmfao..... After reading ronniet's review of their test 400, where only trace amounts of prop were found, i pity the fools who still fall for them.. Make sure to steer clear at all costs... Stick with **** and you will never be dissapointed. This just goes to show you that it doesnt matter how long a company has been around some are still frauds! Cheers!