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    I have been doing an lot of research on gear. I have been working out for over ten years off and on. I do know how to diet and cut fat without gear but now I want to take my gains to another level. Currently I am 5'8" 230 I want to get to 190 but look like I weigh 230. What would be a good beginner cycle for a person that doesn't really like needles.
    Given enough time, any man may master the physical. With enough knowledge, any man may become wise. It is the true warrior who can master both....and surpass the result
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    Whats your research tell you?
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    • #3
      Originally posted by Beastmode41 View Post
      I have been doing an lot of research on gear. I have been working out for over ten years off and on. I do know how to diet and cut fat without gear but now I want to take my gains to another level. Currently I am 5'8" 230 I want to get to 190 but look like I weigh 230. What would be a good beginner cycle for a person that doesn't really like needles.
      Sounds to me you really haven't done any research, if this is what your asking!
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      • #4
        Im going to need some test at some point......Meaning needles
        Given enough time, any man may master the physical. With enough knowledge, any man may become wise. It is the true warrior who can master both....and surpass the result
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        • #5
          I guess what my main question is what would be a good starting point since I have never done gear....... I am considering var along with some dbol I was hoping someone could give some quality advice.
          Given enough time, any man may master the physical. With enough knowledge, any man may become wise. It is the true warrior who can master both....and surpass the result
          Tien T'ai

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          • #6
            Forget My first question found the answer thanks
            Given enough time, any man may master the physical. With enough knowledge, any man may become wise. It is the true warrior who can master both....and surpass the result
            Tien T'ai

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            • #7
              A D H D !!! Its a bitch...
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              • #8
                What's your b-fat at now? At 5'8" and 230lbs. your either muscular or your fat??? If you take anything while your b-fat is high it's a waist of time. You said you now how to diet and cut fat with out gear then do that first and get down to 190lbs. Then you can start a run with gear.
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                • #9
                  Thanks for the input MrBig will work on that first.
                  Given enough time, any man may master the physical. With enough knowledge, any man may become wise. It is the true warrior who can master both....and surpass the result
                  Tien T'ai

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