Question on Helios usage.

[RonnyT Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close RonnyT]

Hey, Ronnie - I've read and re-read your blogs and posts about helios before contacting ya. The one thing that I still don't quite understand is how many shots per day.

For example:

I wanna pin my lower back "love handles" and my lower belly. I don't know how sensitive I will be to this compound so I'm thinking I should keep the dosage moderate to low obviously.

My question is - do I pin ALL those spots each day?? Or one spot per day working my way around the waist-line such as this

Day 1 - right "love handle" w/ .5 cc's
Day 2 - left "love handle" w/ .5 cc's
Day 3 - left lower belly w/ .5 cc's
Day 4 - right lower belly w/ .5 cc's

and so on....

Or would I pin ALL those spots daily? If daily - would I still use .5 cc's on each spot??

Also - as far as sterility is concerned - should I use a fresh pin on each spot or can I use the same pin for all 4 locations?

I hope I've made sense in this explanation.

Thank you so much for your time and information, buddy. VERY much appreciated - very valuable



Bro,

You always pin left and right at the same day. Meaning left and right "love handle" and left and right lower belly the other day.

Start pinning low 1/10 of a ml ( one part) from a U100 insulinsyringe. Clean the injectionspots with ethanol or betadine. Start low and work your dose up. Very important too, is the massage of the fatspots under/with a hot shower to increase fatloss/breakdown.

Dieting is ver important too. If you use AAS you know that hardening androgenics like masteron and winstrol wil speed up the process, if you use gear that is able to convert to estrogen (aromatisation) its harder to loose fat and keep musclemass, in that case you need an aromatase inhibitor.

Most people use Helios alone, caffeine and by example ECA will add to the effect so be carefull.

The dose depends therefore on your expirience, bodyweight, sex and tolerance. You should feel okay, a bit wired but not the much. Trembling hands are normal. An increased hartrate should be kept under control. Take it in the morning to enable a healthy sleep


After rereading my answer: if you tolerate bigger amounts of course you can pin both bellie and lovehandles etc the same day, just depends on previous named precautions

[ADONIS Member Find all posts View Profile Close ADONIS]

Very helpful, brother. Thank you for your time and knowledge. Will be running it with 540mgs Sust and 30 to 50 mg's winny (oral). Right now I'm mid-way through a 500mg Cyp EW with a dbol kickstart (which I ran for the first 4 weeks). Running .5 mg's adex EOD as well.

[ADONIS Member Find all posts View Profile Close ADONIS]

Also - would you use a fresh pin for each spot?

[AIRBORNE Member Find all posts View Profile Close AIRBORNE]

Also - would you use a fresh pin for each spot?

Yes. Youd never want to take a chance. Infectionsmare pretty easy to get and are a mother to get rid of.

[ADONIS Member Find all posts View Profile Close ADONIS]

Yes. Youd never want to take a chance. Infectionsmare pretty easy to get and are a mother to get rid of.

I hear ya, man. Was planning to use fresh for each spot. Gonna go through pins like mad!

[RonnyT Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close RonnyT]

To be honest.. I always use a pin until its empty, 5-10 different spots. Also on other people. I keep it in the fridge in a slosable long (drink) container and clean the needle with ethanol before every shot..wait a bit to allow bacteria to die if they are present. I only use a pin that many times because the injection is subQ

[ADONIS Member Find all posts View Profile Close ADONIS]

To be honest.. I always use a pin until its empty, 5-10 different spots. Also on other people. I keep it in the fridge in a slosable long (drink) container and clean the needle with ethanol before every shot..wait a bit to allow bacteria to die if they are present. I only use a pin that many times because the injection is subQ

Gotcha! I was a bit concerned with using that many pins, man. I was thinking I could get away with at least 2 injections per day with the same pin.

[ADONIS Member Find all posts View Profile Close ADONIS]

As far as massage. Would I do my shots - then shower - then massage? Does the order matter?

[bigpa Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close bigpa]

So when I look at the picture of the pin you just pin 1 line.

[AIRBORNE Member Find all posts View Profile Close AIRBORNE]

To be honest.. I always use a pin until its empty, 5-10 different spots. Also on other people. I keep it in the fridge in a slosable long (drink) container and clean the needle with ethanol before every shot..wait a bit to allow bacteria to die if they are present. I only use a pin that many times because the injection is subQ

Ahh, I see what you mean. I will worry about anything and everything when it comes to this stuff.

[ADONIS Member Find all posts View Profile Close ADONIS]

So when I look at the picture of the pin you just pin 1 line.

That's what I'm seeing in the pic too, dude. But from what Ronny stated initially I'm thinking 1/10 of a 100u syringe would be at the "10" line...right? Wrong?

[RonnyT Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close RonnyT]

nope 2. always pin left AND right. When you have some spots you want to loose fat from, you massage pin, diet etc the order doesn't matter, just the fact that you are determent to loose fat from that spots, we discussed before that you can buy cremes like thiomucase etc that will also help to loose fat there

[ADONIS Member Find all posts View Profile Close ADONIS]

Gotcha. Ordering some thiomucase today as well. But am I thinking right about the dosage? Start with "-10 unit shot" per injection spot? That's how I understood your initial post.

Thanks again for your time, brother.