I want to use deca again

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I used deca/ test for 8 weeks and stopped for 3 months and decided to do 2 more cycles but noticed I wasn't gaining as rapidly and I was having issues with my libido so I instantly stopped, I started a cutting cycle of clen/var/test. How long do I have to wait before I can use deca again? My stats are if it matters 5:8 178lbs roufly 12/13% body fat. Age 26

[ODB Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close ODB]

u said u have been off 3months, time to go.

IMO - issues w libido while using deca r due to dose of Test too low vs deca dose or it could be ur BP, estro, progesterone, etc ....
u can also get some cialis
I like to use @ least 200mg more of test vs deca (I also keep some prop on hand for quick bump).

here is some more info on limp Willie;
The role of nitric oxide in erectile dysfunction: implications for medical therapy.
Burnett AL.
Source
Department of Urology, Johns Hopkins Medical Institutions, Baltimore, MD 21287, USA. aburnett@jhmi.edu

Abstract

Erectile dysfunction is a common, multifactorial disorder that is associated with aging and a range of organic and psychogenic conditions, including hypertension, hypercholesterolemia, diabetes mellitus, cardiovascular disease, and depression. Penile erection is a complex process involving psychogenic and hormonal input, and a neurovascular nonadrenergic, noncholinergic mechanism. Nitric oxide (NO) is believed to be the main vasoactive nonadrenergic, noncholinergic neurotransmitter and chemical mediator of penile erection. Released by nerve and endothelial cells in the corpora cavernosa of the penis, NO activates soluble guanylyl cyclase, which increases 3',5'-cyclic guanosine monophosphate (cGMP) levels. Acting as a second messenger molecule, cGMP regulates the activity of calcium channels as well as intracellular contractile proteins that affect the relaxation of corpus cavernosum smooth muscle. Impaired NO bioactivity is a major pathogenic mechanism of erectile dysfunction. Treatment of erectile dysfunction often requires combinations of psychogenic and medical therapies, many of which have been only moderately successful in the past. The advent of oral phosphodiesterase type 5 (PDE-5) inhibitors, however, has greatly enhanced erectile dysfunction treatment; patients have demonstrated high tolerability and success rates for improved erectile function. The efficacy of the PDE-5 inhibitors also serves to illustrate the importance of the NO-cGMP pathway in erectile function since these agents counteract the degradation of NO-generated cGMP. Because not all patients respond to PDE-5 inhibitors, additional therapies are being investigated, such as soluble guanylyl cyclase activators and NO donors, which act on NO-independent and NO-dependent pathways, respectively.

PMID:
17170606
[PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

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yeah I was off for 3 months before I started using it again. I started with 3 cycles gained 40lbs and had no issues what so ever. stopped using deca/test for 3 months I jumped back on it with 2 more cycles and started noticing a limp noddle I did some digging so I stopped everything is working properly down there but I don't want to risk it to soon, my question was when would I be able to use deca/test again so that I don't have this problem, I mean is there a period of time where I can detox the body of it and reintroduce it back? how would that work? honestly all I want to do is gain atleast 15lbs

[manonmac1 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close manonmac1]

Time on equals time off is the basic formula most of us use when planning a cycle. I don't know of a different set of guidelines for Deca. Deca is known to cause problems with libido hence the term deca dick. ODB was explaining that if it effected your libido then you probably needed to run a little more test to combat the effects of deca. If the deca is killing it then the test brings it back. As far as clearing your system most gear has a half life at the end of that half life its gone. It doesn't buildup in your system and attach to the new gear you're putting in its gone period.

Now one quick question for you. What do you mean when you say "I started with 3 cycles gained 40lbs and had no issues what so ever. stopped using deca/test for 3 months I jumped back on it with 2 more cycles and started noticing a limp noddle I did some digging so I stopped"? I'm having a little trouble understanding what you're saying. What are you calling a cycle is I guess what I'm not understanding.

[c-monster Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close c-monster]

I ain't no expert but from what I gatherd 8weeks ain't long enough for a deca cycle I always run at least 15 weeks. And 2 weeks longer on test that's my opinion and from my experience brother

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Meaning when I first started to use deca I used three bottles, sorry for the confusion. Then stopped for 3 months and bought 2 more bottles of deca and that's when I started to noticed the sides. I gained 40lbs with the first 3 bottles of deca/test. Then onces I got to the fourth after the huge gains I stopped gaining.

[manonmac1 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close manonmac1]

Meaning when I first started to use deca I used three bottles, sorry for the confusion. Then stopped for 3 months and bought 2 more bottles of deca and that's when I started to noticed the sides. I gained 40lbs with the first 3 bottles of deca/test. Then onces I got to the fourth after the huge gains I stopped gaining.

I was kinda hoping that was what you were meaning.lol I have good gains with deca as well but never 40lbs. You had to have been eating a 100 chickens a week! If you are having libido problems with the deca then up your test dose a little at a time till it comes back but don't crazy with the test. If it doesn't come back then yeah either stop taking it or just know you are going to be weak in the hips and need to be strong in the lips! Ain't nothing wrong with a little licky lick and a lot of girls love it. Personally I'd be fixing the libido.lol I do agree that 8 weeks really isn't getting everything out of the deca that you can and it should be ran a little longer. I look at as a 12 week minimum gear. Meaning if I run it I'm running for at least 12 weeks and I to like to stop it in week 14-15-16 and yes its a good idea to run the test a couple of weeks longer.