my first cutting cycle plan - please rate/review (super noob)

[corsair Member Find all posts View Profile Close corsair]

Hi guys,

I've been attempting to research a good first-time gear plan for cutting. I am currently at 188 and 17% bf and would love to make a good cut (under 10% if possible) by the end of july / mid-august.

I've never used gear before, but I've heard some great things about tren and I'm really excited to try it. I did a recent cut cycle and went from 208-165 and went from 25%-17% bf (over 4 months), but I'd like to try my next one with a bit of extra help.

Anyways, here's the plan that I am considering:
W 1-10 Test Enth 250mg E3D
W 1-12 Adex 0.25mg EOD (reduce to 0.125mg EOD in last week)
W 1-8 Tren Enth 150mg E3D
W 1-10 Caber 0.5mg 2x/w

I pretty much took this from RonnyT's post, but I'd like to get other's opinions for this for my weight/bf and first-time usage.

Thanks!

[tsek0s Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close tsek0s]

mm mate i think tren e to 1-8 is low try to get it in 1-10...one plan i would use it will be test e 1-12/tren e 1-10 or 12 adex 0.5 EOD and keep caber in hands in case of sides...can you tell as aout pct plan??

[tsek0s Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close tsek0s]

on the other hand you gain some good cut with:
1-10 andromix 2cc EOD
6 weeks 50mg winny kick start or kick off
1-10 adex 0.5 EOD or aromasin 12.5mg ED
and PCT with clomid + aromasin..i would avoid nolva due to tren...

[corsair Member Find all posts View Profile Close corsair]

I think that's solid advice. For PCT, I was just planning to stay on test-e and taper. thoughts?

W 13-14 Test Enth 40mg E3D
W 15-16 Test Enth 30mg E3D
W 17-18 Test Enth 20mg E3D
W 19-20 Test Enth 10mg E3D

[tsek0s Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close tsek0s]

that pct will destroy you.... PCT with clomid 150/100/50/50 and aromasin 12.5mg ED...you need to recover on pct TREN shutdown hard enough...and estrogen leves will go to the sky

[corsair Member Find all posts View Profile Close corsair]

that pct will destroy you.... PCT with clomid 150/100/50/50 and aromasin 12.5mg ED...you need to recover on pct TREN shutdown hard enough...and estrogen leves will go to the sky

you're a life saver bro. so glad for these forums

[tsek0s Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close tsek0s]

bro before you mess with AAS make a good search...there are standard plans that you have to folow so you will avoid many serious problems... post down anything you need to know and we will try help you too...

[Big L Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Big L]

I think you gotta consider a better diet
I really cant see ronny saying run tren ethanate 8 weeks
I dont like running test only 10 weeks
And i really really doubt that he mentioned taking tren ethanate over tren
Acteate for a first time tren cycle

[tsek0s Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close tsek0s]

tren ace beter choice for the sides cleans up quick

[corsair Member Find all posts View Profile Close corsair]

I think you gotta consider a better diet
I really cant see ronny saying run tren ethanate 8 weeks
I dont like running test only 10 weeks
And i really really doubt that he mentioned taking tren ethanate over tren
Acteate for a first time tren cycle

im not trying to spoof his credibility, he posts it all here under "PART I - FIRST CYCLE":
http://juicedmuscle.com/showthread.p...2-how-to-juice

either way, i really appreciate all the advice everyones giving me. i think i will switch to tren-a. ill post another, updated cycle plan soon when i do some more research.

[stallion Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close stallion]

Hi guys,

I've been attempting to research a good first-time gear plan for cutting. I am currently at 188 and 17% bf and would love to make a good cut (under 10% if possible) by the end of july / mid-august.

I've never used gear before, but I've heard some great things about tren and I'm really excited to try it. I did a recent cut cycle and went from 208-165 and went from 25%-17% bf (over 4 months), but I'd like to try my next one with a bit of extra help.

Anyways, here's the plan that I am considering:
W 1-10 Test Enth 250mg E3D
W 1-12 Adex 0.25mg EOD (reduce to 0.125mg EOD in last week)
W 1-8 Tren Enth 150mg E3D
W 1-10 Caber 0.5mg 2x/w

I pretty much took this from RonnyT's post, but I'd like to get other's opinions for this for my weight/bf and first-time usage.

Thanks!

I'm a bit confused on the post. You say you've never used gear before, but then said you did a cut cycle and went from 208 to 165. I need to know when you say cycle, you mean diet??

I don't think many members here would advise a cut cycle for your first cycle. And even though Ronny mentioned tren e as a possible add in to a first cycle, not many would recommend that as well. The reason? Too many variables. If you haven't run a cycle before, you don't even know how your going to respond to test. Many guys can get sides, for example, gyno just from a test cycle alone. Adding in tren, you don't know if your getting getting gyno from test or through the prolactin route.

Many board threads have talked about tren sides. Night sweats, tren cough, insomnia, effect on cardiovascular health and just being an all around prick on tren. I'm not sure this is the route you want to go if this is your first cycle.

[corsair Member Find all posts View Profile Close corsair]

I'm a bit confused on the post. You say you've never used gear before, but then said you did a cut cycle and went from 208 to 165. I need to know when you say cycle, you mean diet??

I don't think many members here would advise a cut cycle for your first cycle. And even though Ronny mentioned tren e as a possible add in to a first cycle, not many would recommend that as well. The reason? Too many variables. If you haven't run a cycle before, you don't even know how your going to respond to test. Many guys can get sides, for example, gyno just from a test cycle alone. Adding in tren, you don't know if your getting getting gyno from test or through the prolactin route.

Many board threads have talked about tren sides. Night sweats, tren cough, insomnia, effect on cardiovascular health and just being an all around prick on tren. I'm not sure this is the route you want to go if this is your first cycle.

that was a natural cut with diet and exercise alone, sorry didnt mean to confuse. thank you for the info.

[MrBig Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close MrBig]

I have to agree with stallion, Tren can be tough to handle and especially Tren E, I wouldn't advise it. To do a real cut cycle you would use gear that works best on a low calorie diet. This wold include Test Prop, Mast and Tren A, But these all have to be pinned eod which means your going to have to open up 4 locations to pin. For some ones first cycle just this is hard if your not use to injections. I like to use my glutes and my quads for the four locations.

[ODB Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close ODB]

No offense Bro but @ 188lb + 17% BF - just do more cardio to get to 10%.

AAS just help ur body recover faster, they do not burn fat.
This allows u to workout more or do a little more cardio but u still need to put in the work, exercise, diet and time.

u would do better if u still insist on using "Help" with Clen or a Clen+T3+AAS cycle.

[Ares Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Ares]

yeah tren would not be fun to start with especially if you get that fucking cough