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joebillings
02-24-2012, 07:32 PM
So after research I found that Test E, Dbol and alil arimidex are my best options....
First time in since 4 years... last cycle was SD @ 30mg
This is how I planned it

Test E 250mg Monday & Thursday
Dbol 30mg split 5x ED
Arimidex .5mg every 3rd day or as needed

Pct 1 week after last injection
Nolvadex 40mg/40/20/20

Guest
02-24-2012, 08:06 PM
you alter shot areas obv. i go r glute l glute R quad L quad....quads hurt me the least.....with the pct.. u r planning a 4 week one thats good.. sam told me to do it like this 40/20/20/10 .I have also read that no1 needs 40mg of nolva 20 is sufficient they overdue it.. but just do it this way its cool. size gains all depend on the person.. first cycle 15-20 (I think i got like 14 but im a hard gainer and also didnt have my diet down

CFINCH007
02-24-2012, 08:41 PM
IMO you dont really need to split up your Dbol like that at all

one-more
02-24-2012, 10:12 PM
adding Deca to your test can make a HUGE difference in results. just keep your test mg's higher than your deca mg's or you can get "deca dick"... when using two compounds togeter like this it is known as synergistic results e.g. the results are greater than there "sum".... you will retain lots of water doing this cycle, so don't be bummed if you give "half" back..good luck

Old Dude
02-24-2012, 10:50 PM
Gains do not come from a cycle only, To make gains in weight & strength, you must have your diet down (Thats the hardest thing for me) and hit the gym like a rhino slamming into safari cars door. I train like there is no tomorrow.

CFINCH007
02-24-2012, 11:00 PM
Diet is crucial!!!!!!
Gains do not come from a cycle only, To make gains in weight & strength, you must have your diet down (Thats the hardest thing for me) and hit the gym like a rhino slamming into safari cars door. I train like there is no tomorrow.

joebillings
02-25-2012, 03:32 AM
I'm going to alternate my ? was is there a reason ppl perfer a shot in the ass? It seems like it be near impossible to do yourself lmbo

joebillings
02-25-2012, 03:32 AM
How should I dose it?

joebillings
02-25-2012, 03:34 AM
The training part is no problem... I've used the designer steroid Superdrol and stacked it with tren prohormone gave me wicked recovery... I train 4-5 hours ED for 5 days EW. And as for dieting down... man I hate watching calories and not getting a cheat meal

CFINCH007
02-25-2012, 03:35 AM
IMO glutes are the best to pin....just a pref i guess, i pinned quads only once and hated it...smaller amounts I will pin in delts
I'm going to alternate my ? was is there a reason ppl perfer a shot in the ass? It seems like it be near impossible to do yourself lmbo

joebillings
02-25-2012, 03:35 AM
Agree, since gear can destroy your hdl levels is there anything I can eat or take to try to keep them higher and keep my heart protected?... precaution

joebillings
02-25-2012, 03:38 AM
Yeah I won't get too bummed haha... I'm actually aiming for 30-35 lbs and hope to keep at least 20 I hope that's not impossible... I've read bloggers using M1T and Methyl 1-ad said they've gained 20 lbs in 3-4 weeks and have kept 15 and strength was huge... I want all I can get peroid... even if I have to use deca... while I do want to compete my drive to gain is much higher... plus I don't know if I'm ready to compete at the next class yet...

CFINCH007
02-25-2012, 03:42 AM
what are your stats now?

joebillings
02-25-2012, 03:45 AM
are you talking hdl/ldl and tris? b.c I haven't got them tested yet won't be able to till march

CFINCH007
02-25-2012, 03:49 AM
height and weight
are you talking hdl/ldl and tris? b.c I haven't got them tested yet won't be able to till march

joebillings
02-25-2012, 03:52 AM
o ok man 5'7 171

CFINCH007
02-25-2012, 04:08 AM
I wouldn't be to set on gaining 30lbs from a cycle.......If your are taking in a shitload of carbs and protein and workout is great, 20-25 is a little more reasonable. Just my opinion
o ok man 5'7 171

joebillings
02-25-2012, 04:14 AM
kept after pct or just while I'm on?

CFINCH007
02-25-2012, 04:32 AM
Total is not out of question, I gained and kept 20 after my first cycle
kept after pct or just while I'm on?

joebillings
02-25-2012, 04:36 AM
works for me I've read some ppl gaining 40 lbs although everyone's different... would b-12 injections help with app I am having a hard time eating right now

Guest
02-25-2012, 01:18 PM
yes b12 shots have been said to help app.. make sure u get it from a credible place. avoid drinking fluids around meal times so u can eat more bunch of small meals bro.thc. if ur having a hard time eating pre-cycle u should go get a physical b4 u jump into this as well bud. Just in case.. but they can also prescribe stuff to help.

hackleech
03-03-2012, 04:22 AM
if u eat enough calories u can do 30 pounds but u wont keep all of that after pct and u might not manage enough calories to get that anyway

joebillings
03-07-2012, 03:17 AM
Is the media just b.sing or is it true... is the gains on roids short lived? I know you lose water and such during pct but some ppl say if you use roids and never use again within a few months you lose everything... I kinda feel like that's based on b.s and I'd say if you keep eating and training u'd keep whatever you got post cycle... any body wanna answer honestly...>

Ares
03-07-2012, 04:08 AM
maybe hit up the test cyp at 250 for 10 or 12 weeks. and dbol 30mg split up in the day for 4 or 6 weeks. the adex and proper pct. I dont have a lot of $ right now and i was thinking that for myself

Ares
03-07-2012, 04:11 AM
or maybe test sus too

joebillings
03-07-2012, 04:24 AM
Are you thinking of stacking test cyp with sus? there's no point man... many many ppl say stick to cyp or enathate... I've found test E and cyp for @30 250mg 10ml that's 10 weeks at 250mg... dbol is 200 for $45 arimidex $17 and nolva for pct $19 idk the rules so idk if I can say what brand but the place to order is listed on the forum... really curious about the makers like who should I get from brand wise... go with the cheapest or what... idk..

joebillings
03-07-2012, 04:25 AM
Think about this... my stack total is about $175 w. shipping... I have spent more money on supplements before... plus that's for 3months worth... plus 4 weeks pct... not bad at all.

Ares
03-07-2012, 05:06 AM
well i was saying one of the 3. i hear sus gives good strength gains. i currently am just doing t3 and clen

joebillings
03-07-2012, 06:40 AM
test in general good strength.... + dbol is great 4 it.... test suspension is the best... but inj ED! & it's reported painful...... how clen treating u?