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dino
08-31-2010, 05:04 AM
2 type of italian Glutatione 600mg/4ml.
Sorry: 2brand,but same type and same vials and same of TAD 600.

methan
09-01-2010, 11:55 AM
thx for the picts bro :)

strongmann
09-01-2010, 03:17 PM
ya dino!! really nice pics!!

RonnyT
09-02-2010, 01:29 PM
Supplementing with glutathione combats free radicals and boosts muscle

As a bodybuilder, you must take all the necessary steps to ensure muscle growth: You have to train hard, eat the proper diet and take essential supplements, including whey protein, glutamine, creatine and, of course, antioxidants--the supplements that help reduce free radicals. If you aren't currently taking antioxidants, this article should convince you that these supplements are crucial to protect your muscles.
Believe it or not, training is a double-edged sword. Always keep in mind that you don't get big because you train; you get big because you recover effectively from your training. When you train, free radicals are produced in large quantities, and these harmful chemical compounds can bring your muscle gains to a halt. Obviously, the answer is not to quit working out. The answer is to help your body effectively protect itself.
The good news is that your body can produce its own antioxidants, such as glutathione, to help combat muscle-eating free radicals. Your body never produces enough antioxidants, though, to stop all of the free radicals. Those that escape this natural defense system can continue their attack on your muscle cells and the genetic material that will produce the extra muscle protein needed for growth. They also initiate a release of chemicals that inhibit the anabolic effects of growth hormone and insulinlike growth factor 1. All of these effects spell trouble for bodybuilders because they cause muscle to actually shrink. So what's a growing bodybuilder to do? It's simple--take supplements that boost your body's production of glutathione to stop free radicals dead in their tracks and keep your muscle gains on track.
Glutathione is a natural antioxidant that's critical for preventing free radicals from damaging tissues throughout your body, including your muscles. It also helps protect your liver from poisons and certain drugs. Supplementing with glutathione itself is not a very effective strategy, because your gut digests most of it and prevents it from reaching the bloodstream intact. That's why it's seldom sold in supplement stores. Therefore, the best way to raise glutathione levels is to get enough of its most important nutritional building blocks, which include the mineral selenium and the amino acid cysteine.
A bodybuilder's quantitative need for selenium is not entirely clear. The recommended daily allowance (RDA) for adults is set at 55 micrograms (mcg), so make sure you get at least this much from foods and/or supplements. Because the RDA is based on typical Americans, who tend to be less muscular and active than bodybuilders, getting more than the RDA is probably a good strategy to help protect your muscle mass. The upper limit that is regarded as safe for adults is 280 mcg. Shoot for a supplement that delivers about 50 mcg (which may appear as 0.05 milligrams [mg] on labels) of selenium and eat a diet that includes selenium-rich foods.
Particularly good sources of selenium include cereals and other grains, Brazil nuts, seafood, poultry, mushrooms and asparagus. Acceptable forms of selenium supplements include amino acid chelates (e.g., selenomethionine), selenium yeast and sodium selenate. Another acceptable form of selenium is called selenocysteine. Because it forms an active part of many enzymes, selenocysteine is considered by some scientists to be the 21st amino acid.
The key is not to overdo it, as too much selenium can cause muscle loss. More common than other mineral toxicities, too much selenium blunts the appetite, disrupts thyroid and gut function, damages the liver and causes hair loss and fingernail abnormalities. Daily intake of more than 800 mcg is typically required for serious toxicity. On a regional note, people who live in South Dakota, Wyoming and Venezuela--where selenium, which occurs naturally in soil, is present in higher concentrations--tend to get more significant dosages of selenium from their food supply. As a result, bodybuilders in these areas should avoid taking selenium supplements, although a multivitamin (containing a small amount of the mineral) is likely to be safe.
WHEY TO GO Interestingly, one of the most efficient ways to bolster your glutathione levels may be to take whey protein. Scientists compared the effects of 20 grams (g) of whey to a placebo and to 20 g of casein on the glutathione levels of 20 healthy subjects. Unlike the placebo or casein treatment, whey caused a 20% rise in blood glutathione levels, suggesting that it improves antioxidant status.
One explanation for its effect is whey's content of the sulfur-containing amino acid cysteine. Supplementation with a form of cysteine called N-acetyl cysteine increases glutathione levels in humans. Unfortunately, N-acetyl cysteine may also cause adverse effects if higher-than-normal amounts are taken for prolonged periods, so its effects are too mixed for us to recommend it as a way to enhance glutathione. One study found that N-acetyl cysteine actually increased free radicals when given as a supplement in combination with vitamin C after intense resistance exercise, while also measurably increasing the amount of muscle damage. As a result, whey protein is preferred over N-acetyl cysteine to improve glutathione levels and supply your body with the amino acids it needs to build muscle tissue and support your training. We recommend 50 g daily.
In addition to these methods for boosting glutathione levels, another good strategy is to take supplements that supply other antioxidants, such as vitamins E and C, which have been shown to reduce muscle damage after intense exercise. We recommend about 400 international units (IU) of vitamin E, 500 mg of vitamin C and at least eight servings of fruits and vegetables daily.
Although many of these supplements can have additional benefits, it's important for bodybuilders to consider the muscle-sparing effects of selenium, whey protein and vitamins C and E. Fighting off the detrimental effects of free radicals is one more weapon in your muscle-building arsenal.

dino
09-03-2010, 05:00 AM
Selenium help conversion of T4 in T3 too. I think it's good to take 1 week of NAC (600mg 3 x day) after 1 week of inj. glutathione to raise the endogenous level of glutathione (maybe after C17AAS). Daily: Vit. C 1g 2-3 x day, vit.E 400 IU, 50-100mcg of selenium, whey prot. 50-100g.

RonnyT
07-25-2013, 01:37 PM
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I was in Greece for a few days and spoke with a trainer, he told me TAD was used by many pro's to protect liver and kidneys, improve the immune system and improve skin texture (androgenic compounds are ver hars on the skin as most will know) It also helps protect the hair (androgenic means and hairloss same story). It was a nice discussion. Most bodybuilders want to discuss topics about musclegrow and anti-estrogens, but taking injectable B12 Sillymarin Keto TAD, Selegiline etc is a bit unusual. But how much we hate it we will get older... a fighter once told me in the sauna, it doen't matter if you smoke a package of cigarettes with a crate of beer, if you do so you'll pay after your 40st year, when you are older. The same is true for many things that can wreck your body. Your body is your temple, and you never can get a new one. Regrets is a useless emotion. You should protect your body now!!

RonnyT
07-26-2013, 07:52 AM
No, it's not a steroid, though I might class it as a sort of performance enhancer, if you count improved libido mood and sleep patterns as 'performance', lol.

So what is it? As a MAO-B inhibitor (in regular doses), this drug inhibits the enzyme that oxidises dopamine, meaning that more is left in the system to be released and reuptaken.

Why is this of interest to me, a steroid-using individual? Well since it is a well established fact that dopamine antagonises ('counteracts' in laymans terms) prolactin, and that since elevated prolactine may be an unwanted side-effect of certain pro-hormones and steroids, and that since prolactin has inhibitory effects on libido (and mood) in men, you can see the possible use for a drug that reduces it.

Now there are other drugs that will achieve a similar aim, however they are either unstable (liquid cabergoline), expensive (tablet caber) or harsh on the system (bromocriptine).

Selegiline is cheap and only needs 2.5mg ED (or EOD if you are sensitive) to create a pleasant lift in daily energy, mood, libido, etc.

In fact, we did a trial study group over on enhanced-minds. com which you guys can read up for yourself.

In a nutshell then: selegiline is a cheap, reliable way of reducing that nasty brain chemical that may be what is f**king you up in the bedroom, post cycle. Side benefits include happiness and improved daily energy.
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