a question for Ronny T.

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in the williams Llewellin's underground anabolics were examined differents brands of steroids and many of them were found contaminated with amines and carboline. this kind of contaminant what effect can have on our healt and if is it is safety use these underground gear.
Thanks Ronny for your valuable work.

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in the williams Llewellin's underground anabolics were examined differents brands of steroids and many of them were found contaminated with amines and carboline. this kind of contaminant what effect can have on our healt and if is it is safety use these underground gear.
Thanks Ronny for your valuable work.

It was written by Bill and me.

If the values would have been toxic we would have posted, most contaminations where trace amounts. Off course this could also be due to the fact that we only analysed the bigger and better labs. This because they sell the most items and internationally. Those labs have more funds to buy knowledge and equipment and mostly have access to better raw material.

the xolanation from the book, in case you don't own a copy:

10) Amines and carboline: Simple amines such as pyrrole, pyrrolidine, pyrrolidone, pyrroline and others, may be used in a variety of pharmaceutical syntheses, particularly in their substituted forms, and also may be used in the production of polymers. Carbolines are a class of amines widespread in plants and animals, similar to tryptamine, and using an indole base. Other trace amines naturally present can also appear similar to carbolines. Amino acids, which do not chromatograph well, may also be noted, not as amino acids, but as related compounds.

The presence of such amines could be due to a variety of circumstances, such as extraction and synthesis, polymer migration, or raw material sources. The lower match quality obtained for many of these indicates that, while probably good at determining the class of compound the analyte belongs to, the specific identification may be problematic. The computer will attempt to force a match and if the actual mass spectrum is somewhat similar it will report a result. These can vary in degree of accuracy.

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thank you very much ronny.