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sam1976
04-02-2010, 04:22 PM
Dihydroboldenone/1-Testosterone Profile

Pharmaceutical Name: Dihydroboldenone
Chemical Names: 17beta-hydroxyandrost-1-en-3-one, 5alpha-androst-1-en-3-one, 17beta-ol
Active Life: depends on the ester utilized
Anabolic/Androgenic Ratio: 200/100

Dihydroboldenone, most commonly known as 1-testosterone, is a 5alpha reduced form of the steroid boldenone. This lack of 5alpha reduction with the compound allows users to administer it without suffering the negative side effects associated with this chemical reaction but also eliminates the benefits as well. Boldenone is not the only steroid that shares similarities with dihydroboldenone. In fact dihydroboldenone is chemically identical to the drug methenolone except for the 1-methylation that is apart of methenolone (1). 1-methylation was of course added to methenolone to make it more available when taken orally and thus dihydroboldenone is not efficiently utilized when administered orally, although it was once sold over the counter in tablet and pill form. Some of these over the counter preparations of the drug were done utilizing a delivery system similar to Andriol, i.e. producing an oil-solubilized product with dihydroboldenone. This would still not be a relatively worthwhile system of delivery to use however if one wanted to maximize the potential of the compound. Intramuscular injection is by far the most efficient method of administration to use as with most anabolic steroids.

As mentioned above, dihydroboldenone is structurally similar to methenolone and boldenone and less so to testosterone despite the commonly used name for it, 1-testosterone. For this reason some female athletes may be inclined to use the drug as well. The potential for development of symptoms of virilization still remain but are not as severe as with synthetic testosterone or other harsher drugs. This is not to say however that dihydroboldenone is a mild drug. To simplify the explanation of exactly what the drug is, it is to boldenone as dihydrotestosterone (DHT) is to testosterone. This would explain why the effects of the drug, both positive and negative, are so dissimilar to those of boldenone. Like testosterone and dihydrotestosterone, a portion of the boldenone that a user administers converts to dihydroboldenone. Also similarly, dihydroboldenone like dihydrotestosterone does not convert to anything else past that compound.

Dihydroboldenone, while not overly androgenic, is a potent anabolic. It has been demonstrated that the drug binds extremely well and selectively to the androgen receptor and stimulates androgen receptor transactivation of dependent reporter genes (2, 3). This equates to a drug that possesses the ability to stimulate significant muscle growth while not producing androgenic side effects. It has been shown to be by far more anabolic then such compounds as boldenone, nandrolone, and even testosterone itself. Obviously this is of great benefit to many athletes.

Anecdotally some users have indicated that post-injection pain with dihydroboldenone can become an issue for some. Diluting the drug with either another injectable drug or some other type of sterile oil seems to alleviate at least some of this discomfort. The type of ester used does not appear to negate this pain for the users that experience it however.

Indeed dihydroboldenone is available in numerous different esters. Cypionate, Ethyl Carbonate, Propyl Carbonate, and Propionate, among others, are all available for use with the drug. As always each does not offer any real advantages over one another other then the obvious differing active lives that each presents and the amount of time that it takes for the body to completely eliminate the drug from it (4). For the most part users will want to have their choice dictated by the injection frequency with which they want to deal with when using the compound, but of course they will also likely be limited by those that are made available to them.


Use/Dosing

As for the duration with which dihydroboldenone can be run, due to the mild nature of the drug extended use of the compound can be completed with little in the way of serious complications arising. There are no major issues with hepatoxicity or severe kidney stress and the effect it has on other vital health markers such as blood pressure is slight in the majority of users.

As for specific dosages used with this drug, the low end is primarily thought to be three hundred to four hundred milligrams per week for male users. Like all drugs this number will vary from user to user and also depends on how much of a dramatic effect a user will want to achieve with the drug. As for the highest doses that would be worthwhile for users to attempt, this again depends on a number of variables. Doses of one gram per week are not uncommon for some users with others attempting doses in excess of this. It will always come back to how much one is willing to administer and at what point do the positives of increasing your doses begin to be outweighed by the negatives.

For females the usual rules apply with dihydroboldenone as they do with other drugs. These are namely starting out with short esters if possible so that if side effects begin to become too severe discontinuation of the drug can begin immediately and low doses should be administered at the beginning of the cycle and can be increased once the tolerance of the user is gauged. Anywhere from twenty five to one hundred milligrams per week would be a good starting point for the majority of female users who have little to moderate experience with anabolic drugs.

As stated earlier, for the frequency of dosing with dihydroboldenone it of course depends on the ester used with the compound. Seemingly the most popular current ester to produce the drug with is cypionate. No matter what ester utilized however the same rules would apply as with any other drug in terms of the frequency of administration needed to maintain relatively stable blood levels of the compound.


Risks/Side Effects

As previously indicated dihydroboldenone does not aromatize and therefore estrogenic side effects such as gynecomastia and water retention are not a concern for users. This is partly due to the drug being incapable of 5alpha reduction. Also, androgenic side effects would also be extremely infrequent for most users as there is little in the way, in terms of attributes of the drug, to produce these. These include such things as acne and hair loss, although it appears to have the potential to cause prostate enlargement. This potential for prostate growth is actually similar in frequency and severity as with that of testosterone propionate (2).

With the positive aspects of the lack of aromatization associated with dihydroboldenone also come the negative ones. Fortunately these are primarily limited to such symptoms as lethargy, malaise and possibly a reduction in sex drive. These are caused by a lower ratio of estrogen in comparison to androgens in the body. For the most part however this effect is relatively slight and can be avoided with the use of steroids that do aromatize in conjunction with dihydroboldenone and thus restore a better balance in terms of androgens versus estrogen.

It also appears that the administration of dihydroboldenone may result in an increase in liver weight (2). This effect occurred when administering the drug orally but should also be true of the drug when administered via intramuscular injection. There is no research to indicate this however.

Other common negative side effects associated with the use of anabolic/androgenic steroids are still relatively mild with the use of dihydroboldenone. Of course suppression of the natural testosterone production of users will occur like with all steroids, however other side effects such as an increase in blood pressure, acne and others are comparably mild and often times non-existent in users, at least as they are directly related to the administration of this drug.

In terms of side effects for women, at moderate to heavy doses symptoms of virilization are likely. These can include such symptoms as clitoral enlargement, body hair growth and deepening of the voice. At lower doses however these side effects should not be a concern for the majority of potential female users.

blergs
08-26-2010, 09:37 PM
very interested in trying this soon! :-)

Silver Back
08-26-2010, 09:52 PM
very interested in trying this soon! :-)

Please update if you do!

I'm interested as well :)

sam1976
08-28-2010, 02:05 AM
it's a great compound. i just ran it for 16 wks. if you have any questions about it, let me know.

blergs
09-25-2010, 09:18 AM
you got a pm ;-)

SuissePharma
12-24-2010, 05:59 PM
Should 1-test cyp be prepared in 80% GSO and 20% EO to ease the injection-pain, when making it @ 100mg/ml?

Zota
09-11-2011, 11:14 PM
Should 1-test cyp be prepared in 80% GSO and 20% EO to ease the injection-pain, when making it @ 100mg/ml?

Ive heard EO helps with the nail gun effect. It really is a shame you cannot get this.

RonnyT
09-20-2011, 02:49 PM
Why should it hurt? I'll order some raws to try it "in vivo" the 1 testosterone cypionate and some boldenone cypionate to try apart and mixed. The short estrifications of boldenone (propionate and acetate) do hurt as hell. Which brand did you use Sam? ..and at which dose?

sam1976
09-23-2011, 02:04 AM
Why should it hurt? I'll order some raws to try it "in vivo" the 1 testosterone cypionate and some boldenone cypionate to try apart and mixed. The short estrifications of boldenone (propionate and acetate) do hurt as hell. Which brand did you use Sam? ..and at which dose?

hey ronny, i used GP. this thread was from last year when i ran it at 400mg. i ran it again in my most recent cycle at 500mg. smooth injections as far as i could tell. no problems for me. i have heard in the past that 1t cyp can be very painful. i guess GP just knows what they're doing

RonnyT
09-24-2011, 08:32 PM
I bet they do, they use a synthetic oil. I also want to play a bit around with these compounds myself. Looks promissimg enough.

sam1976
09-25-2011, 01:30 AM
I bet they do, they use a synthetic oil. I also want to play a bit around with these compounds myself. Looks promissimg enough.

i've always wondered about the oil that GP uses. at one point a naps rep from another site said it was an MCT oil. whatever it is, i would say it is one of the best oils i've used. traditional cotton seed oil sits in my muscle for a long time. GP's oil feels gone within a day or so. it has worked great during contest prep when i've had to do ED injects.

cruzi
11-03-2011, 01:41 PM
very interesting Sam... liked your test suspension article and already have ordered DVDs for upcoming winter cycle .. now this one in particular how would you stack it if attempting a cutter cycle??? is this ED or EOD inyects?

Guest
11-05-2011, 03:50 AM
what are u asking cruel? what would u stack 1-cyp get some other kinda test with it... .. also what are ur stats and # of cycles so he can answer this better bud

ODB
11-28-2011, 12:12 AM
it's a great compound. i just ran it for 16 wks. if you have any questions about it, let me know.

Sam (+ anyone else who has used it) what would u say ur positive results from adding 1-TestCyp to ur cycle? -( ie. growth? strength? joints? appetite? vascularity?)

{I believe u ran 500mg for 16wks.}
Thanks.

sam1976
11-28-2011, 01:46 AM
Sam (+ anyone else who has used it) what would u say ur positive results from adding 1-TestCyp to ur cycle? -( ie. growth? strength? joints? appetite? vascularity?)

{I believe u ran 500mg for 16wks.}
Thanks.

i felt harder and maybe stronger on 1-test than i do on EQ. i used to think i liked it better than EQ. that being said, now that i'm on EQ at 1cc EOD, i'm digging it much more than 1-test. i feel 1-test was good the first year i used it for cutting. this past cycle for bulking was good, but i dont think it was dramatic. overall, i consider it a fairly mild compound. i've never used primo, but from what i know about it, it seems like it would be somewhat similar

Guest
11-28-2011, 11:22 PM
similiar in price and similar to primo in how u reacted to it..maybe the poorer mans primo lol.. i fiound it odd that u took like 500mg 1-cyp and then more test of something else i thought that u would just need one or the other... EQ all the way!! i feel like im gonna use it in almost every cycle.. it is one of the safer steroids with the LEAST amount of sides... with slow steady gains that tend to stay vrs.. the water bulk fast then deplete faster...

SO SAM.. u vote eq over 1-cyp.. is it worth it cuz it is expensive? im getting the no answer from ur response and to stick with the eq!
!

sam1976
12-01-2011, 12:40 AM
blue, i'm having a hard time with this one i guess. i dont know...i liked it. it is mild. it isnt the same as EQ, thats for sure. i got a good round, let hard and veiny look from it. i got some good strength from it. this at 500mg EW vs doing 200mg EQ EOD. i guess on an mg to mg basis, 1-test cyp is much stronger. but if you're willing to up the eq to 800mg, then i think i like it better for gains than 500mg of 1tc. and i guess it depends on your goals. if you told me you wanted to look good all summer and hang at the beach, i would say 1test cyp all the way.

also, i think you are a little confused where you said...

i fiound it odd that u took like 500mg 1-cyp and then more test of something else i thought that u would just need one or the other...
1-test cyp is not test at all. it is DHB, a metabolite of EQ. it is to EQ what DHT is to test. check the profile out in this thead and it'll lay everything out for you.

SuissePharma
12-02-2011, 02:09 AM
i've always wondered about the oil that GP uses. at one point a naps rep from another site said it was an MCT oil. whatever it is, i would say it is one of the best oils i've used. traditional cotton seed oil sits in my muscle for a long time. GP's oil feels gone within a day or so. it has worked great during contest prep when i've had to do ED injects.

When is MCT-oil preferd over regular grapeseed oil? Are there some kind of powders that mixes better with MCT than with gso? Because from what I understand most pepole use gso in their gear.

RonnyT
12-10-2011, 01:45 PM
Thin oils (low viscius) oils are mostly synthetic and therefore consistant(you know which and which amount of fatty acids content). These oils are mostly used as co-solvent (20% of the carrier) when you want to make high-dosed compounds. Sometimes they are used to hold compounds like Testosterone propionate that cristalises easily.

CFINCH007
12-10-2011, 02:51 PM
I just starting running this this week instead of some other test I had...i hope i like t better than the BS i was on

joebillings
02-20-2012, 08:52 AM
it's a great compound. i just ran it for 16 wks. if you have any questions about it, let me know.

I read that you did 1 test... may I ask what did you see in terms of gains in strength and mass... any sides.... how was the pct what was kept and how much did you use?

Thanks man appriciate it.

Wasn't able to pm

joebillings
02-20-2012, 08:56 AM
I heard EQ @ 200mg EW was a waste but idk never used it... I'd love to try EQ mainly to add to Test E for bulk due to increase in appiete what do you think?

Guest
02-24-2012, 09:07 PM
eq at 600mg MINIMUM... IF U WANA GAIN.. MAYBE 200MG WILL HELP APPETITE BUT THATS IT....