Thoughts about this oral cycle please

[NattyIce Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close NattyIce]

M-drol/Epi (havoc) Cycle , including pct and off-cycle plans

M-drol:

Week 1 Tuesday Thursday Sat

1 pre-workout 1 pre 1 pre

1 post 1 post



Week 2 2 pre 2 pre 2 pre

1 post 1 post 1 post



Week 3 1 pre 1 pre 1 pre

2 post 1 post 1 post

Havoc:

Week 3 1 pre 1 pre 1 pre

1 post 1 post



Week 4 2 pre 2 pre 2 pre

1 post 1 post 1 post



Week 5 2 pre 2 pre 2 pre

1 post 2 post 2 post



Week 6 2 pre 2 pre 2 pre

2 post 2 post 2 post

Inhibit-E:

Week 6 Tues thru Thursday Friday thru Monday

1 pill pm 1 am and 1 pm



Week 7 Tues thru Monday

1 pill am and 2 pills pm



Week 8 Tues thru Thursday Friday thru Monday

1 pill am and 1 pill pm 1 pill pm

T-BombII:

Week 8 Tues thru Thursday Friday thru Monday

1 am 2 am

1 pm 1 pm



Weeks 9 ? 12 (or until bottle is empy) 2 pills am and 2 pills pm.



Creatine:

Week 7 Tues thru Sat Sun ? Mon

5g am 5g pre (or am)

5g pm 5g post (or pm)

5g pre

5g post



Wk 8-12 10g/day: 5g pre and post wkt or am and pm (on non-wkt days)

This is something a buddy of mine sent me and put in an order for? Any experiance with any of this?

[dav1dg90 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close dav1dg90]

You are at the wrong place bro we do not deal with prohormones/any designer steroids. There are other forums with the info you are looking for. This forum only deals with AAS. (anabolic and adrogenic steroids)

[iamready Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close iamready]

Technically both of those are aas. Neither convert to something else.

Op just so you are aware, stacking two methylated orals is a bad idea. Stacking mdrol with another methyl is especially bad. Mdrol is straight poison. It gives great strength but takes a serious toll on your liver.

Also, I don't see a serm in the pct. You should use one, period.

[NattyIce Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close NattyIce]

What would you recommend for serm?

[pulpak69 Member Find all posts View Profile Close pulpak69]

Yeah a lot of bad reviews man. i wouldnt. But if your into that stuff give methyl 1d a shot. Ive known some peeps who dug it.

[iamready Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close iamready]

honestly, I can't figure out what you are even saying in that cycle lay out.

When I run mdrol, I run it 20/20/20
I take 1 am and 1 pm each day for 3-4 weeks

If you are going to run it, I suggest running plenty of liver support and be prepared to deal with how it makes you feel. I dont know if it is because of the strong nature (it shuts down your natural test production hard and fast) or its toxicity, but it will make you feel like crap fast.

when I run epi/havoc I typically run it 40/40/40/40/40/40
that is 4 pills per day for 6 weeks. with a 6-8 hour half life you should dose every 6 hours or so. I work out in the evening after work so I normally run mine 1 at 6am 1 at noon and 2 at 5pm pre workout.

Is this your first cycle? I would not run mdrol on a first cycle. I would not stack these products either.

You need a serm for pct, either nolva or clomid or torem

If you pm me, I will give you a good forum that handles ph/ds. There are lots of knowledgeable guys there. (not sayin the guys here are not knowledgeable, just on this subject. The guys there know very little of injectables)