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tnturbo
01-30-2011, 05:39 PM
Has any body tried the preworkout stuff called ravage from gnc bought it yesterday cant keep it down the shit is horrible is the jack 3d any better?

lifestyle
01-30-2011, 07:03 PM
jack3d is about the best i've tried. Im on hemo rage concentraded at the moment, I usually switch so i won't get use to it. I've used (jack3d, super pump 250, no explode, hemo rage, super pump 250 maxx) What I do is pick 2 favorites and alternate them, I havent found my 2nd favorite. A friend been telling me to try labrada argilean but i havent tried it.

FLChris
01-30-2011, 08:46 PM
jack3d is good the lime flavor is great !! it works well drink it 30 mins to workout it gets u intense makes me ichy

Ironsoman
01-31-2011, 12:11 AM
jack3d is the one everyone talks about, they think its convinent and cost effective because hte price, the tub you get is tiny, i used to use the old formula one which was considerably a lot better, and even than it wasnt worth it. Gets even worse as you build your tolerance and have to use 3 or more scoops.. I've been using white flood by controlled labs, lot better cost wise, better vascularity, better pump, no crash feeling.

mbig245
01-31-2011, 12:51 AM
I'm using the Super Pump... Works pretty good and try Nano Vapor........

tnturbo
01-31-2011, 01:36 AM
Thanks guys ill try out some of those brands that ravage from gnc wont stay down while im working out the stuff taste like it has vinegar in it.

Conrad
01-31-2011, 01:56 AM
After doing a jugs of Jack3d, NO XPLODE, SP 250 I just realized that I wasted a lot of money. N2KTS was both cheaper stronger and better in every way possible.

http://www.needtobuildmuscle.com/store/Pre-Post-Workout-Supplements/N2KTS-p35.html

Skinny
01-31-2011, 12:22 PM
i have taken jacked and i think this stuff blows it out of the water AllMax Nutrition Razor 8 http://www.a1supplements.com/Razor-8-Blast-Powder-540-Grams-p-20755.html

Judge
01-31-2011, 05:42 PM
i have taken jacked and i think this stuff blows it out of the water AllMax Nutrition Razor 8 http://www.a1supplements.com/Razor-8-Blast-Powder-540-Grams-p-20755.html
basically all the above two supps use the same ingredients like Jacked?

Abomb
01-31-2011, 08:07 PM
i save that stuff for when im off juice. oh and the jack fucks with my sleepin alot

tnturbo
01-31-2011, 09:29 PM
I tried the jack today i like it alot better than the ravage.

Skinny
01-31-2011, 09:57 PM
if you have a nutrishop where you live please try a sample of the razor8 if you can you might like it better because jacked did mess with my sleep also

tnturbo
02-01-2011, 12:46 AM
I will definitely try it out probably pick some up this weekend dont need my sleep messed up any more than it is thanks for the info.

mattmac1280
02-02-2011, 03:16 AM
For pre workout supps i feel ones with high beta-alanine/carnosine are the best. My favorite combination is one that I had made personally for me, but it is similar to GNC's pre workout amino complex, just has double the amount of beta alanine. and i drink that with a SPIKE which is loaded in b12 and a good amount of stimulant...if u dont have access to SPIKE...u could just buy gnc's pre workout amino complex n take two scoops to get the double dose of beta alanine and a black coffee...will give a similar reaction.

mattmac1280
02-02-2011, 03:17 AM
musclemeds CodeRed is pretty good as well.

gymrat
02-04-2011, 09:00 PM
I Agree with Abomb Depends on what time you train if it's at nite might have trouble sleeping I way the options I will take a good nites sleep anytime
eat,sleep,train,grow

babygorillakj
02-05-2011, 01:39 AM
gentleman- due to the recent economy ive searched for the best pre-workout supplement and i would highly recomend a mixture of MUSCLE FORTRESS "SPIKE" W/ 1SCOOP OF SCI-FIT RECTIFY!! pumped lasted most of day with no crash!! and endurance was very stable during work-out!

roachboy101
04-03-2011, 10:35 PM
After doing a jugs of Jack3d, NO XPLODE, SP 250 I just realized that I wasted a lot of money. N2KTS was both cheaper stronger and better in every way possible.

http://www.needtobuildmuscle.com/store/Pre-Post-Workout-Supplements/N2KTS-p35.html

i second that statement also!