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cuppycake
01-18-2015, 06:37 PM
I was recommended a cycle of mast/eq and test for cutting.
I need to know when I should see results.
I have some anavar oral at home, but I am thinking I need something else
I am running twice a week
TRT (300mg every two weeks)
Sust (450 mg weekly)
Mast (600mg weekly)
EQ(600mg weekly)

I am not seeing results like I have in past cycles and I am wondering if something needs to be added,. I thought that I would try listening to some forum suggestions.
I do have dbal oral and var oral but only 5mg on VAR-- (low var mg, for my wife she is on her first cycle) mid 40s .

I am looking for a good cutting cycle with minimal sides on my labs, as my doc runs labs every 90 days for TRT.
I am currently in week ten.
I am 5'10 225 and bout 15%bodyfat and 46

Suggestions are appreciated been doing cycles on and off for near 20 years was hoping the gear had improved over the years and just getting on the computer in the past 6 months to research.
thanks

MrBig
01-18-2015, 07:41 PM
cuppycake,

I always come off my TRT when I start a cycle. So when was the last time you've done a cycle. Who's gear is it? I've been using gear for about the same amount of time as you and I would never use so much gear, to expensive and I realize I don't need to. Your running a shit load of gear almost 2g a week, are you going pro?

cuppycake
01-19-2015, 04:37 AM
Not PRO, just an older guy looking to maintain what I have worked hard for over the years and to trim it up.
Gear Im using is from a sponsor on s-f, thunderpharm. I work projects and as a result move around every couple of years so had to turn to internet, seems the way of the world.
I am new to TRT and this is my first cycle while on TRT. I started TRT about 12 months ago.
I prefer to keep my cycles to about a two a year and ensure my diet is in check.
I have always done test with every cycle in the past, and just bumped it up from what was prescribed thinking I needed a bit extra. I am ten weeks into this cycle and I am not seeing any results like I use to with other cutting cycles I have done.
Any suggestions or opinions on this is appreciated. I prefer to do as little gear as needed to get the results I want. Now I am looking to cut for summer months. if you know of good source for gear let me know. so many sources so difficult to know who has quality and who doesn't.

MrBig
01-19-2015, 04:53 AM
I hear ya brother. Wow 10 weeks and no results, well for me what stands out the most with using so much gear.....There's only two things it can be. That's diet and or cardio. When I look at my calculators it tells me you should be doing about 1980 calories. Is this close to what your doing? How are your cardio sessions, yes more than one, right????

cuppycake
01-19-2015, 05:05 AM
I have been slacking on the cardio, I am guessing. I hit the gym 5 days a week and alternate which area I focus on. Arms, back , legs, abs, shoulders, etc. yes it is disappointing so I don't know if it is the gear and I need to find a new source or not? Diet is pretty much spot on. I do not calorie count but do eat very healthy and maintain a good diet, I did throw some bread in for a while and over the holidays a few of the wifes cookies LOL, so looking to cut that out. I do not do soda or anything like that and basically do about 10 or so 16 ounce bottles of water a day, other than my morning coffee. I am doing about two protein shakes a day. yes I feel like this cycle has been a waste of hard earned $$, but will focus on the cardio this week and next and see if I notice any change-- I do work 6 days a week and about 10-12 hour days, but always manage to come home and change and me and the wife head to the gym. She is more cardio while I am in the weight room, looks like starting tomorrow I will join her in cardio
I appreciate your time in responding and helping a brother out--you think I should stop the test for the remainder of my cycle, I figured I would stay on cycle another 2 weeks.

MrBig
01-19-2015, 05:22 AM
I would stay on, but I also think you should start to count the calorie. Why I say this is, your not getting any results! You need to find the issue and resolve it. You should be doing two sessions of cardio. One first thing in the morning (fasted cardio) at lest 30 minutes, another session after your weight training 30 minutes. At this pace you will get some results even if you weren't on gear. Also remember when on a cut cycle your gear is used to keep the muscle you have, that's it! This is what I would have you do for two weeks, see how you respond and adjust if needed. As for gear, I have only used our sponsor with always great results.

cuppycake
01-19-2015, 05:28 AM
will check out their offerings, as my wife just decided to try var for the very first time ever, she is doing 2.5daily this week and wants to go to 5mg daily next week. again source is the same and not sure on legit product or not-she definitely wants no male side effects 100% girlie :) so will check out this site sponsor and see what they have there too.
Will take your advice and calorie count and journal my intake and double cardio.... I will come back and update this thread when I can.
thanks again, nice to know there are other folks out there willing to help out and lend some advice--

MrBig
01-19-2015, 05:30 AM
Any time brother, if I can help I will, that's why I'm here.

Liquid
01-24-2015, 08:41 AM
If you get your TRT levels checked every 90 days, after that much of Test its going to be through the roof. Your doctor might think its too high on that dose and lower it.

Pestosterone
02-22-2015, 11:55 PM
I hope your anavar is actually anavar for her sake