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tryintolift
01-05-2011, 05:50 PM
hi im 20, 5 9 and 150. i ran my first cycle of h- drol when i was 18 and it went really well for me i gained massive ammounts and kept all of it and more after pct. but shorty after that i hurt my shoulder and had to have surgery well lost pretty much everything so now that im ready to start lifting again id like to run another cycle.

Heres what my goal is- i want to run a safe mild cycle with lean permanent gains. im looking for strength gains mainly i want some size but want to get as strong as possible while staying as light as possible.

Also iv been reading a lot that anavar can be run anywhere up to 16 weeks which seems great to me as it will help me build up a lot of muscle to stabilize my shoulder while i continue PT. is this true how long would some of u recomend?

my plan was to run Anavar for about 8 to 10 weeks with milk thistle and then inhibit e and a natty test booster for pct which iv read is more than enough for anavar.

Well im open to any ideas injection is fine but it would be a first let me know what u think thank you.

oh and sorry one more question what are the long term affects of something like anavar on your hormone system compared to something synthetic like h-drol?

frank_lopez
01-06-2011, 03:01 AM
Before you jump on any juice why dont you wait a little longer? You still have about another year or 2 in you to get this started. The only long term is really for you to stick with the gym at all times. Just giving you my honest opinion bro, dont want to see you do damage to yourself now while youre still young

PapaAJ
01-06-2011, 03:48 AM
Honestly I have heard the wait thing over and over and it is probably true to an extent. In terms of real life experience for me, I honestly see those who jump right on shit before they probably should, get big fast and keep it...I guess because they are well under their potential. This is injecting of course, with a proper PCT. Same thing every time even though people always are telling them wait, they dont wait, get huge and keep most of thier gains and no one says another word. Just being honest here. Kind of funny to see happen more then once. Makes you think.

Oral only cycles seem to only be good when it comes to less intense substances, h-drol for example. Do some more research and do a good cycle you won't deflate after.

Dbol kickstart to Test E is a very very popular one that you might want to look into.

Good luck.

tryintolift
01-09-2011, 11:05 AM
Before you jump on any juice why dont you wait a little longer? You still have about another year or 2 in you to get this started. The only long term is really for you to stick with the gym at all times. Just giving you my honest opinion bro, dont want to see you do damage to yourself now while youre still young

hey i appreciate the looking out for me and i knew i would get replys saying this but heres the thing iv been examined by hormone and growth specialists and they have determined my horomones and bones are developed at a rate of around two to three years ahead of normal and my bones have been fused and i have been done growing since i was 14 i have ran a cycle already so im very sure it does make a huge difference and im trying to get myself in top form to compete and fight as soon as possible since i have wasted so many years due to my injury i really need to be training. also this will be my last cycle maybe ever because i dont see myself needing to gain much more after this cycle so i dont see damage to my body being a problem with one mild cycle such as anavar. if anyone has different thoughts on this let me know

the thing i have heard about anavar was the fact that it converts naturally or directly into testosterone unlike synthetic h-drol and other orals. i have heard this is a huge benefit for many reasons especially the reason it is supposed to effect your natural test production much less. im wondering if anyone knows more about this?? and also if anyone has tried anavar how long would it be safe to run for and around how much did your cycle cost you??

frank_lopez
01-09-2011, 09:04 PM
it's cool bro, my main thing is I didnt want to dish out advice and knowing it could do more harm on the inside than good.
PapaAJ are you a doctor to be saying that or did you just read it online. you know you cant always believe everything you read online. The thing is bc of his age I dont want to see him do damage to himself, it's called giving advice to someone that no one gave to me when i was younger. of course theres exceptions to every rule but the fact is that if we just dish out stuff to everyone without knowing their full stats then we can be telling a 15yr old high school kid to take dbol, test, and tren. more damage than good. Fact is educating and having them know what we now know. Like I said in high school no one ever told me anything

tryintolift
01-10-2011, 12:02 AM
it's cool bro, my main thing is I didnt want to dish out advice and knowing it could do more harm on the inside than good.
PapaAJ are you a doctor to be saying that or did you just read it online. you know you cant always believe everything you read online. The thing is bc of his age I dont want to see him do damage to himself, it's called giving advice to someone that no one gave to me when i was younger. of course theres exceptions to every rule but the fact is that if we just dish out stuff to everyone without knowing their full stats then we can be telling a 15yr old high school kid to take dbol, test, and tren. more damage than good. Fact is educating and having them know what we now know. Like I said in high school no one ever told me anything

i really see where your coming from especially because i know about how at the local high school at least 90% of the football team is running cycles including freshman! iv even heard from some iv seen lifting telling me they are doing things like stacking h-drol and m-drol some with no pct.

JuicedUK
01-10-2011, 10:01 AM
If you wanna stay light and keep it mild then Anavar is a good choice IMO. Especially at your young, its not as supressive as other stuff. You havnt put what dose you will be running. Anavar is pretty expensive.

frank_lopez
01-10-2011, 12:37 PM
i really see where your coming from especially because i know about how at the local high school at least 90% of the football team is running cycles including freshman! iv even heard from some iv seen lifting telling me they are doing things like stacking h-drol and m-drol some with no pct.

Not a problem bro, you come on this board looking for advice on juice. I dont know you at all but I would hate to see someone else go through what I went through in my life. I only had people telling me to take more and take more. I never had a board or anyone who really knew about juice in my day. Best thing I can say is just wait a little while get your knowledge up, and hit the gym hard. Eat big, lift big, and get plenty of rest. I had no idea what a PCT was and neither did any of my friends, so you can imagine what we were like. Thought we knew it all but in reality we never knew anything. Its hard to tell someone at that age anything because they think they know all about life and what it has to offer. truth is there plenty more out there.

I will give you this: at least you're smart enough to do some research and ask around. So you're taking a step in the right direction. Good job bro! Now whatever you do is up to you. If you ask me I would personally say just wait a little while longer. You havent hit 21 yet and my guess is that you would prob do some drinking (legally) when you hit 21, I could be wrong bc I dont know if youre a social drinker or not but thats just my guess. Juice puts a strain on your liver and mixing it with alcohol is not very smart. Just give it a little bit longer. You will be suprised at all the knowledge you can gain in a year or 2 especially if you do research. I dont want to see you fuked later in life bro

seniorangel
01-12-2011, 09:43 PM
Hahha nice

tryintolift
01-13-2011, 02:01 AM
If you wanna stay light and keep it mild then Anavar is a good choice IMO. Especially at your young, its not as supressive as other stuff. You havnt put what dose you will be running. Anavar is pretty expensive.

ya thats what i have been hearing to. i would like to run 40mg a day for about 5 or 6 weeks but still need to find a legit place to buy it that is not to expensive or fake.

And ya frank thanks for the input i do tend to put a lot of research into these things i like to feel confident i know exactly what im doing. and as for the liver thing that is a good point i will be drinking that year lol thats one of the reasons i like anavar its very very easy on the liver my understanding is most people safely run it with no liver support(not that i would)

tryintolift
01-13-2011, 02:08 AM
also had another idea in mind i have liked for a really long time HGH. i have not even looked at prices for it though im assuming its extremely pricey but iv heard good things like how it would be beneficial for recovering from my suregery because unlike steriods HGH actually helps strengthen tendons and ligaments plus providing faster denser muscle gain and faster recovery. Dont know as much bout HGH gonna do some research but i would like to hear from some people with personal experience or anyone that has any useful info for me. Thanks everyone