Revised Cycle/ Input Welcomed

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After much deliberation and research and feed back from my fellow JM board members, I have decided to run the following cycle in September:


GP Test CYP 250
Weeks 1-10 500mg/ week (two shots a week)

GP Dbol
Weeks 1-4 20mg/ day

GP Anavar
Weeks 5-12 60mg/ day ( I figured I would run the anavar an extra two weeks after my last pin since I can't start pct for two weeks after my last pin)


Pct will consist of clomid dosed (300 first day) then 100/50/50/50 (which will start two weeks after my last pin)

And I have nolva on hand in case I have any flares ups while on cycle, I'm not prone to gyno but one can never be to careful.

* My only concern is if 20 mg of d-bol is sufficient, the reason I went with 20mg is because I've read that GP's stuff is over dosed and I didn't want the bloating to get out of control.

Thanks in advance for any feedback!

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20mg is better than nothing, but i wouldnt agree that gp stuff is overdosed. i would prob aim for 30-40 a day of dbol, but theres nothing wrong with 20. id be interested to see how 20 works out for you. ive heard that back in the days of arnold and them, they would only take like 10-20 a day and crazy low test, i dont know how true it is though. and with you on orals the entire time, you DEF need some liver support supps. and i dont see any mention of hcg and an ai, is there any in the plans?

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i bump for that as well.. 30 is a pretty solid dose

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Is this you're first run on gear?
I think the D is a little low, I'm currently doing 50mg a day, you said your concerned about the bloat I'm doing .5mg of Adex EOD and it seems to be taking care of that. There's been a few days where it's been a little more, but I just pop another .5mg of Adex, are you running anything during the cycle for an E blocker? also running the two orals make sure you keep an eye on liver health! jm2c

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bump for the adex.. i felt like the water melted away for me with this.. also take .5 eod.

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20mg is better than nothing, but i wouldnt agree that gp stuff is overdosed. i would prob aim for 30-40 a day of dbol, but theres nothing wrong with 20. id be interested to see how 20 works out for you. ive heard that back in the days of arnold and them, they would only take like 10-20 a day and crazy low test, i dont know how true it is though. and with you on orals the entire time, you DEF need some liver support supps. and i dont see any mention of hcg and an ai, is there any in the plans?

Appreciate the input PushinWeight, I'll probably dose it 20mg the first week & 30mg the following 3 weeks. I will be running liver support supplements as well, as for as hcg and an ai I didn't have plans I was just going to use the nolva if I had any estrogen concerns. Is hcg necessary?

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Is this you're first run on gear?
I think the D is a little low, I'm currently doing 50mg a day, you said your concerned about the bloat I'm doing .5mg of Adex EOD and it seems to be taking care of that. There's been a few days where it's been a little more, but I just pop another .5mg of Adex, are you running anything during the cycle for an E blocker? also running the two orals make sure you keep an eye on liver health! jm2c

Appreciate the input Mr. Big, yes this is my first run on gear however I have run my share of pro-hormones. As for as an e blocker I was going to run 10 mg of nolva ed if needed. And I plan on running liver supports. As for as the bloat I really don't mind much this cycle is going to be my winter bulk. I suppose all n all I was keeping my dose of d-bol low to attempt to avoid as many negative sides as possible since I do plan on running two orals, although I won't be taking them together but soon as I finish the d-bol I was going to finish it off with the anavar.

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Great looking cycle man.I do agree with the others about upping the dbol to maybe 30mg and the adex is always a great idea to run during cycle.It really keeps the water retnetion in check.

Good luck with it brother.Thanks for the post and look forward to seeing the posts throughout cycle.

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Great looking cycle man.I do agree with the others about upping the dbol to maybe 30mg and the adex is always a great idea to run during cycle.It really keeps the water retnetion in check.

Good luck with it brother.Thanks for the post and look forward to seeing the posts throughout cycle.

Thanks for the input F.I.S.T. I'll look into adex as well as bump to 30mg on the d-bol. Not running cycle until September but will post results upon completion.

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there is no real need for the anavar. first, in your plan, you're running orals for 12 wks straight...thats taxing on the liver and cholesterol. plus, once the test kicks in, you wont need much of anything else, especially for a first cycle.

as far as dbol dose, yes, i would also bump it up a little. 30mg would be more than enough for some great water/strength gains while you wait for the test to start working. i would eiher run a low dose of AI or have nolvadex on hand, espeically while running the dbol. that stuff can cause some wicked gyno

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there is no real need for the anavar. first, in your plan, you're running orals for 12 wks straight...thats taxing on the liver and cholesterol. plus, once the test kicks in, you wont need much of anything else, especially for a first cycle.

as far as dbol dose, yes, i would also bump it up a little. 30mg would be more than enough for some great water/strength gains while you wait for the test to start working. i would eiher run a low dose of AI or have nolvadex on hand, espeically while running the dbol. that stuff can cause some wicked gyno

Appreciate the input Sam, from my understanding of Anavar it's a very mild compound, I've even read that it is one of the only orals that can be used that does not require the use of p.c.t. and recommended doses are typically 50mg to 100mg a day for 6-12 weeks. Therefore I thought it would be an excellent addition to the end of the cycle for some solid lean gains. In fact the write up states, “ Even though it is a C-17 oral, it still has minimal effect on liver values even at higher doses as well as, the mass that is gained by anavar will be quality gains, and gains that likely to be kept after the steroid is no longer being used.” Which imho makes it a great choice to close out the cycle.

In addition I will be using liver support, and I have nolvadex on hand just in case.

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Appreciate the input guys!